[net.misc] A question about records speeds

leichter (02/11/83)

The odd-ball speeds of records - 78, 45, 33 1/3, 16 2/3 - are holdovers from
an earlier day and a desire to make cheap turntables.  The easiest, cheapest
way to make a cheap constant-speed electric motor is to use a synchronous motor,
whose speed is determined by the line frequency - 60 cycles/second.  The
easiest, cheapest way to get convert a 60 rotations/second motor speed into
a useful turntable speed is with an idler-wheel drive to the turntable.  The
speeds given - except for 78 - come from simple integer ratios for the motor
axle, the idler wheel, and the turntable itself.  I think you'll typically
see a 60/1 ratio in the motor axle to idler wheel, and then a 3/4 reduction
for 45 rpm, a 5/9 for 33 1/3, and a 5/18 for 16 2/3.  (Actually, even 78 isn't
that far off; it's a 10/13 ratio.  However, 78 was chosen as a compromise; there
were a lot of old mechanical-age records around that used a wide variety of
speeds (when you use a spring drive, the exact number isn't significant as far
as design goes); 78 was easy to get from 60 cps, and near the middle of the
range for then-existing records.)

BTW - an item of historical interest.  You sometimes see turntables described
as "transcription".  This once had a special meaning.  Transcription-style
records were made for radio-station use.  They were 15 inch disks, played at
(I think) 16 2/3 - although faster rather than slower would make more sense,
maybe it was 45 - and played from the inside out!  The reason for this oddity
was simple:  Record distortion is at a maximum near the inner diameter (where
you have less linear distance to spread a given time-units of signal over),
minimal at the outer edge.  Most classical pieces (what the radio stations back
then were playing) are relatively soft in the beginning, but have a grand
finale.  So...you put the loudest music where it will distort the least.
							-- Jerry
						decvax!yale-comix!leichter

floyd (02/12/83)

The 15 inch discs were used primarliy to get more programming onto
a single disc in order to minimize interruptions.  Not too long ago,
if not any more, you could buy broadcast turntables with 16-inch
platters and ~14-inch tonearms.  The selectable speeds were 33, 45 & 78.

hal (02/13/83)

Another obscure fact about 15" transcription disks.  Because they were
only intended for professional use, they often didn't have the "bead" on
the outside edge that commercial records have.  (The bead is the rounded
off edge.)  Without the bead, these disks had razor sharp edges.  I once
threw one of these things like a frisbie at a tree (with no one around,
of course), and it imbedded itself about 1" into the tree.  Makes Odjob's
hat seem like a safe children's toy.

Hal Perkins
{etc...}!cornell!hal
hal@cornell (arpa)