kek (02/18/83)
Lately I have been seeing the phrase "car rt sort" or something similar on a lot of the mailing labels of the mail I receive. Anybody know what it means? Ken Kepple Bell Labs - Holmdel 5941ux!kek
rwc (02/18/83)
I have also noticed a lot of mail, epsecially junk mail, coming to my house with the 'CAR RT SORT' on the label. I knew it had to be coming from some mailing list, sold to outsiders to earn an extra buck for whoever had compiled the list. At first I thought it was the electric company, or the secretary of state's office (driver's licenses and license plates). However, not long ago I received my 1982 Federal income tax forms, and there on the label was the same 'CAR RT SORT' phrase. I don't particularly appreciate utility companies, etc. giving my name and address out so freely. I don't know if I can really say the same thing if the IRS is the one who is making money from the list. After all, if they don't get the money from peddling the list to junk mail houses, they may step up their qausi-legal arm twisting tactics on us ordianry taxpayers. ~a s/ordianry/ordinary/ (When will we get a sem-intelligent interface to news ?) Bob Colby BTL Indian Hill ihnp1!rwc
karn (02/18/83)
CR RT SRT - Carrier Route Sort. The mail is pre-sorted by the sender, in exchange (I believe) for a slight break on postage. Phil
res (02/18/83)
Re: CAR RT SORT I believe that this is an indication put on the mail by a bulk mailer to tell the Post Office that the mail has been sorted by the mailer into Carrier Route order. By presorting the mail a bulk mailer gets a lower postal rate. This phrase has no relation at all to HOW the mailer got your name. In the case of the IRS, I doubt that they need help from any magazine subscription list! Rich Strebendt Bell Labs ...!ihuxn!res
dws (02/18/83)
Carrier presort is represented by the mnemonic device "car rt" on labels. The postal system has some interesting systems including ECom.
gh (02/19/83)
"car rt sort" on a mailing label means that the mailer has presorted the mail
not just by zip code but right down to the carrier's route ("car rt"), and
gets special low rates for so doing. (Obviously, this only applies to large
quantities of bulk mail going to a concentrated area -- e.g. your annual IRS
forms package.) Many commercial mailing lists are now available with
this information in them.berry (02/19/83)
#R:5941ux:-19300:zinfandel:8200021:000:714 zinfandel!berry Feb 18 15:42:00 1983 'car rt sort' means something like 'carrier route sort'. This means that the mailer of the piece sorted them by the carriers routes before giving them to the Post Offal, thus saving the PO a lot of work and themselves a lot of maney, since they get a better rate if they do the work. I presume you can get some sort of data from the PO to sort by if you want to do something like this. I also know that there are companies that will do it all for you. One of the biggest is in Boulder CO and was written up in Smithsonian a few months ago. They are the reason the subscription correspondence for 75% of your magazines goes to Boulder.... Berry Kercheval Zehntel Inc. (decvax!sytek!zehntel!zinfandel!berry)
guy (02/19/83)
I believe it means "Carrier route sort"; this means that the mail has been sorted by the mailer by the letter carrier's route. I.e., the post office just hands a bundle intended for route Y to the carrier who is going out to deliver mail to route Y. They don't have to sort through it all and dump it into piles by route. Guy Harris RLG Corporation ...!decvax!mcnc!rlgvax!guy
guy (02/19/83)
1) As another news article I submitted said, the CAR-RT SORT merely indicates that the bulk mailer sorted the articles in order to save the Postal Cervix some time and themselves some money. (The mailing list databases probably have a carrier route code in them, which is computed when the record is put into the database, and the programs do the sorting.) 2) There is a semi-intelligent interface to "news"; in fact there are several of them, called "ed", "vi", "ned", "ev", etc. Just build a file (this is coming from "/tmp/news", for all you temporary-file-name mavens out there), and say "mail -i ... -n net.xxx </tmp/news" (or whatever the B news equivalent is). Guy Harris RLG Corporation ...!decvax!mcnc!rlgvax!guy
fair (02/20/83)
As a former Mail carrier, CAR RT SORT Means that the mail is already sorted bye the Carrier's route. Which is a big help since all mail (at least where \I/ was working) is still sorted by hand by the mail carriers. Erik E. Fair ucbvax!fair fair@Berkeley
dws (02/20/83)
The U. S. Postal Service makes tapes available--as a former letter carrier, maybe e. e. fair could be coaxed to discuss CAR RT SORT and other services further?