[net.misc] Do I Smell "Scientific Creationists?"

jeffma (03/25/83)

Are there really some creationists out there?  I mean the kind who believe
that there is empirical evidence for creationism and insufficient
or faulty evidence for evolution (I have no argument with creationists
who hold their belief out of personal conviction, and who recognize that
the scientific basis for evolution is a sound one).  Larry Bickford,
in his diatribe against Secular Humanism, seems to be leaning that way
with his references to those "footprints" in Texas, the inability to
"prove" evolution scientifically, etc.:

   ...only its [Secular Humanism's] views can be taught, without the 
   unbiased presentation of OPPOSING THEORIES TO EXPLAIN THE EVIDENCE AT
   HAND or OPPOSING EVIDENCE that would CONTRADICT their theories (like
   the footprints at Glen Rose, Texas). It says evolution is fact but HAS
   YET TO PROVE IT, SCIENTIFICALLY or any other way.  (There are still
   big rewards waiting for anyone who can prove evolution.)
					(emphasis added)

					Larry Bickford, 3/24/83

I've always wanted to have a discussion with followers of that particular 
brand of creationism...it's the worst pseudoscience of all, because it's
being used to pervert the teaching of science in schools.  And that really
pisses me off.  So, show your colors, biblical geologists.  After all, you
don't have anything to be ashamed of, right?

If you're going to defend your positions with the "evidence" for what
is distastefully known as "scientific" creationism, don't be shy about
it.  On the other hand, if you don't believe you can defend it, then don't 
dribble its silly tenets into your arguments.

Let's talk.
					Jeff Mayhew
					Tektronix

P.S.:  The long-awaited skeptical booklist is almost complete.  The
problem is that it will easily approach 1000 lines (!).  Should I post it
to net.sources (a place where long articles aren't a nuisance), or should 
I spit it out in small pieces?  Let me know your preference.  Thanks.