[mn.general] Digital Sample/Playback machines?

jwabik@shamash.cdc.com (Jeff Wabik) (02/07/89)

I'm trying to find a "box" that will serially attach to a host machine
(be it a PC, or a Sun, or ..) that does digital sampling and playback.

E.G.:
   Via a microphone, digitally record my voice, convert to some format
   I can save to disk, then play back from the disk image at some later
   time.

The box should have (obviously) a mic jack (or jacks for a similar type
of input), and an internal speaker or speaker jacks.   

I've never seen anything like this, but it must exist.  Any info would
be appreciated.

Thanks ..

	-Jeff

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trb@stag.UUCP ( Todd Burkey ) (02/07/89)

In article <11180@shamash.cdc.com> jwabik@shamash.cdc.com (Jeff Wabik) writes:
>I'm trying to find a "box" that will serially attach to a host machine
>(be it a PC, or a Sun, or ..) that does digital sampling and playback.
>

They have been available on the Atari ST, Mac, and Amiga for years
now. All let you pull in sounds, view them, edit them and play them
back. Edit features usually include ramping, adding reverb, reversing
the sound, mapping the sound onto other waveforms, cut and paste, etc.
If you have an Atari ST, there are sound demos you can download from
the local BBS's. My ST actually says "All my circuits are fuctioning
and I am completely operational" every time it boots up (in HAL's
digitized voice from the movie 2010)...used to be
"eeeeehhhhh....what's up, doc?", but bugs bunny can get tiring. The
digitized sound files can get quite large. One of the animation demos
on the ST has an incredibly detailed animation of the California
Raisons dancing to a long segment of "Heard it on the
Grapevine"...took most of a 360K disk for the demo.

Figure on paying about $100 for a good digitizing box (mic inputs,
sound usually from the computer...although an IBM PC would need
sound generation on the box, since the computers' sound capabilities
are pretty minimal).

  -Todd Burkey
   trb@stag.UUCP

erc@pai.UUCP (Eric Johnson) (02/07/89)

In article <11180@shamash.cdc.com>, jwabik@shamash.cdc.com (Jeff Wabik) writes:
> I'm trying to find a "box" that will serially attach to a host machine
> (be it a PC, or a Sun, or ..) that does digital sampling and playback.
> 
> E.G.:
>    Via a microphone, digitally record my voice, convert to some format
>    I can save to disk, then play back from the disk image at some later
>    time.
> 
> The box should have (obviously) a mic jack (or jacks for a similar type
> of input), and an internal speaker or speaker jacks.   
> 
> I've never seen anything like this, but it must exist.  Any info would
> be appreciated.
> 

This may not be exactly what you are looking for, but you may want to
check out a product called MacRecorder from Farallon. As you guessed it,
it runs on the Mac.

MacRecorder comes with a hardware box (with a built-in mic), cables to
record from a stereo (RCA jacks), a software recording program for
HyperCard and a software application called SoundEdit. MacRecorder playback
is done through the Mac's internal speaker (or with an external speaker
hooked up to the Mac) -- the playback is all through the Mac, not the
digitizer box.  MacRecorder records on one channel (monophonic).  Two
MacRecorders can be used together to record in stereo on a Mac II.

MacRecorder records at a number of sampling frequencies, including 22 kHz
and 11 kHz (I hope I am correct on this, as the manual is at home).  The
SoundEdit application controls recording and playback, as well as
editing the sounds recorded.  Sounds may be saved to disk for later
playback or editing.  SoundEdit supports the standard Mac Cut/Copy/Paste
paradigm to manipulate chunks of sound (you can cut out dead sound areas,
copy parts of words for a Max Headroom effect, etc.).  You can also
apply a number of manipulations on chunks of the sound itself --
such as envelopes, echo effects -- you can even reverse the sound.
All these manipulations can apply to the whole sound or any selected part.

The HyperCard stack allows you to paste sounds into any HyperCard stack 
to add sound effects to your HyperCard works.

The list price is ~$200 and the street price from ~$140 on up.  

I think it is a fun device.

Note the MacRecorder hooks up to the Mac through a serial port, and I believe
it digitizes continuously.  You could ask in comp.sys.mac for info on
hooking one up to a Sun or PC serial port (although you would not be
able to run the nifty software then).  The Mac and the Amiga worlds are 
probably the best bets for finding cheap digitizers.

> Thanks ..
> 	-Jeff
> 
> --
> Jeff A. Wabik       E/Mail: jwabik@shamash.cdc.com   AT&T: +1 612 853 6811
>   ____  ____                                         FAX:  +1 612 853 4789
>  / ___||___ \
> | |___  ___| |  Control Data Corporation - Where men are men, and
>  \____||____/                                 vacuum tubes are scared.
> 
>      "Let's turn up the Air Conditioning and the Music for contestant #6!"


Hope this helps,

-Eric

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