[fa.info-mac] macterminal and macput

info-mac@uw-beaver (info-mac) (08/29/84)

From: winkler@harvard.ARPA (Dan Winkler)
Regarding:

	I am using beta MacTerminal 0.5 with an 11/750 running Unix;
	the terminal is connected to the VAX through a (theoretically
	transparent) local-area network.  I am still having the
	transfer problems that some others here have been having:
	Macput compiles fine, after issuing the command "macput -r
	melody.dl" the Mac puts up the "percent of transfer finished"
	meter and transfers about 20% of the file.  Then the meter
	stops moving,

Your problem might be the same one we have with the Sytek network at
Harvard.  Our problem is that our network uses XON/XOFF flow control.
In other words, if you are transferring a resource file which happens
to have a byte equal to ^S in it, the network catches it and freezes.

There are several possible solutions to the problem.  For one, our
network people tell us that they have other kinds of flow control they
can try.  But better yet would be a file transfer protocol that converts
control characters to something less harmful for transmission.  As I
understand it, Kermit does just that, and as a matter of fact Steve
Engel (engel@harvard) has almost completed a Mac version of Kermit.

info-mac@uw-beaver (info-mac) (08/31/84)

From: BILLW@SRI-KL
The problem is worse than that.  Since the MODEM FTP protocol
includes a field containing the "block number", if your system/
network/terminal/concentrator/whatever is going to freeze when
you send in a ^S, then you will NEVER be able to transfer ANY
file greater than 18 blocks long (becasues 19 is a ^S).  This
is why "totally transparent" networks had better REALLY be
totally transparent...  (What does EMACS do?)

BillW