[fa.info-mac] Microdisks

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From: Mike O'Dell <mo@seismo.ARPA>

The latest issue (Monday, October 8) has an article announcing that
HP has renamed the HP 150 touchscreen machine which uses the Sony
3.5" microfloppy.  The article also announced that the machine now
comes with double-sided 3.5" drives!  Maybe this means "the technology
can now make them in quantity" and we can look forward to an Apple
announcment.  A friendly person at a local computer store said that
they were going to a "big meeting" with Apple people, and the last
time they went to such a meeting they were surprised by the 512K
announcement.  Well, here's to hope.

But this same article raises an interesting issue.  The blurb says
the dual-sided drive stores 1.4 Megabytes.  Does this mean the
single-sided version on the HP 150 stores 700K???? Well, yes and no.
A check with a local store selling the HP 150 indicates that while the
drive is capable of doing about 710K single-sided, previous versions
of the software only format it for about 250K, but the next release
is said to support the full 700K, which makes sense, if you intend
to get the good from the double-sided drive.

So, where is the other 300K on the Macintosh version?????  If the density
remains the same, a dual-sided MacSony will store only a bit more than a
single-sided HPSony.  That is a real screw, as far as I can see.
However, the Apple II doesn't get very much on a diskette, either.  Is this
an example of "the Woz's"  fabled hardwareless design ability???   If so,
I am very much unimpressed.

Finally, keep in mind that Hitachi just announced a 9.5 Megabyte 8" floppy
with a 1 Megabyte/second transfer rate and 60 msec. average seek times,
which will sell in quantity for about $750.  While I am not for a second
advocating a return to the 8" blunderbus form-factor, I cannot help but
think this technology will quickly flow down to smaller formats. 
I think the world of the Macintosh; I just hope the design isn't so
close-ended it cannot take advantage of the available technology.


	-Mike O'Dell

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Subject: Correction - Macintosh disks are DENSER than HP150!

Sorry for the misinformation in my earlier message.  That is what
I get for (1) reading my mail out of order, and (2) believing
a salesperson at a computer store.

The October 1 issue of Electronics Week has a picture of the new HP150
showing 2 drives in the machine, and the text clearly explains that
the machine has a TOTAL capacity of 1.4 Megs, or 710K per drive
(double-sided drives).

So, I hereby apologize to The Great Woz for impuning his talents.
Doing 400K per side is noticably better than the 355K that HP is getting.
So, once again, the Mac is shown to be a closet technology leader.

Now if they will just get the double-sided drives into the Mac.....

	-Mike O'Dell