[fa.info-mac] Experlogo first impressions

info-mac@uw-beaver (01/28/85)

From: Rik Sprague <RIK@SU-CSLI.ARPA>


I played with Experlogo for a few hours recently and wrote down a few
random comments for anybody who's interested:  I liked it a lot, and it
sure would be nice if this usurped BASIC as a lingua franca on the
Macintosh.

The way they do 3-D graphics is impressive: something to do with
"bunnies" that can yaw and pitch and roll.  Looks awfully easy to
rotate a cube, for example.

The graphics speed was pretty good, but nothing to get excited about
yet (admittedly this is a very crude first impression).  That may have
something to do with the fact that it's trying to draw on a screen
with lots more pixels than a PC, but it didn't seem outrageously
faster than DRI Logo; at least, not as fast as I had hoped.

Takes up 124K on the disk.  Comes with only 3 demo programs (one draws
an arrow shooting at a target, another draws various patterns, the
other demonstrates lists), none of which is very impressive.  

I couldn't find any way other than pressing the interrupt switch to 
get out of infinite loops, etc.

Macintosh User Interface is well implemented: just a few minor
problems, though, like when the active window doesn't automatically
get moved to the front.

I managed to get it to bomb when I was doing some rather kinky
operations in the 3D graphics mode.

Very tacky manual, photo offset from an imagewriter.  Man, you'd think
these companies could spend a few bucks and at least try to get their
MacWrite documents laser printed.  Organization and completeness of
the manual looks okay, though (nothing to get excited about), but I
really wish they had hired the same people who do the Apple manuals to
do theirs.

Uses a lot of LISP terminology for the file system:  FASL, setENV, etc.

They do their development on a Symbolics 3600 LISP Machine.  Must be
some development system.

Written by: Dennison Bollay, Gray "Where's my car" Clossman, Steven
Lurya, Robert W. Reali, Jon Richter, Dean Ritz, Oran Thomas, John
Worthington.  Do these names ring any bells?

Overall, this product looks like something which the people at
Expertelligence are very proud of.  They probably put it out in record
time and did all kinds of tricks to make it into something they think
is the best.  They obviously knew their LISP, and I can't wait to see
ExperLISP. 





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