info-mac@uw-beaver (01/30/85)
From: Henry.Kautz@rochester.arpa > Postscript: after the meeting and press conference that followed, I drove > over to Scotts Valley to visit Philippe Kahn at Borland Int'l (the > TURBO Pascal people). As many of you may know, Commodore has announced > that TURBO Pascal will be the bundled language with their Macalike, the > Amiga. I have also heard persistent rumors that Borland is doing the > OS for the Amiga as well. As usual, I pumped Philippe for info about > the Amiga, and, as usual, he deftly fended off most of my questions > (the people at Commodore should be pleased with his sealed lips). He > did mention a few things about the machine--the OS directly supports > up to 7MB of RAM, and the thing has slots (yippee!)--but his main > comment was that even if he did tell me all about it, I wouldn't believe > him; that the machine has everything I could ever want in it; and that > it would blow the Mac away. 'Twill be interesting to see what acutally > hits the shelves, and when. But is Borland working on turbo pascal for the Mac, too??? There was a blurb printed in INFOWORLD last year to the effect that Borland wasn't going to do Turbo for the mac, because of lack of cooperation from Apple. True or not? ---- Henry Kautz :uucp: {seismo|allegra}!rochester!henry :arpa: henry@rochester :mail: Dept. of Comp. Sci., U. of Rochester, NY 14627 :phone: (716) 275-5766
info-mac@uw-beaver (02/01/85)
From: Kevin <Mackey.PA@XEROX.ARPA> "There was a blurb printed in INFOWORLD last year to the effect that Borland wasn't going to do Turbo for the mac, because of lack of cooperation from Apple. True or not?" Unfortunately, true. I was at a talk Philippe Kahn gave to the Software Entrepreneur's Forum here in Palo Alto. He said he had been invited by Apple to come by and see what they were up to. He was given a tour of the place, and shown MacPascal. He brought a Compaq along (he didn't think they would have IBM compatibles around) and did a speed test between Turbo Pascal and MacPascal (not very fair, I know, but he wanted to make a point). When Turbo clearly showed to be the winner, the guy from Apple (unidentified) said "But it's got windows!". He told Philippe Apple would send him a bunch of hardware and manuals, which he said was fine but it hasn't all arrived (no Lisa's, just a couple of 512K Macs). Part of the problem is that Apple wouldn't give Borland credit(!). He has complained to Apple, but the guy who gave the demo keeps calling asking Philippe how the development is going. Didn't sound like Borland would develop anything for the Mac. Philippe also doesn't like the Mac. He said Apple made a big mistake putting most of the features of the Mac into software. He's seen the Amiga, and says the custom graphics chips make for incredible performance. (I suppose the same could be said of the Commodore 64 sound chip, but try programming it! Easier interfaces make for more and better software.) ~Kevin