[fa.info-mac] MAC-user-environment on UNIX

info-mac@uw-beaver (01/30/85)

From: cadtroy!schoff@cadmus


I had broached this subject within the Usenet community about
a month ago and got some interesting feedback.  Last week at
Uniforum in Dallas CADMUS demonstrated a taste of this (MacPaint etc..)
with encouraging results.  I will raise the question again here:

"How would YOU use a MAC-user-environment (complete with QuickDraw, the
resource make etc....) on a UNIX machine [with: 68020, 8MBytes of memory,
1 GByte of virtual address space, {65,140,320MByte local SCSI disks},
Big File Servers on an ethernet if you wanted to run diskless, a distributed
file system {UNISON} on the Ethernet, TCP/IP on the ethernet, an appletalk
interface."  
 
- Note that save for the 68020 this all already happens on a 68010 machne.

"Would you use it to develop software for the MAC?"
"Would you use the UNIX machine as a personal workstation and the MAC-user
	-environment as your personal-environment?"
"Would you develop tools like a CAD package that the engineer runs at
	work, and then carries home to his home to work on 'after-supper' on
	his personal MAC?"

I would like to have some feedback from you prol's out there.

My Latin is poor but, "Vox Populi, Vox Dei", "The voice of the people
is the voice of God".

a prol,

marty
schoff@cadmus.ARPA
{wanginst,seismo}!ucadmus!cadtroy!schoff
schoff%cadmus.csnet@csnet-relay

PS: please respond directly to me. 

info-mac@uw-beaver (02/04/85)

From: tektronix!hplabs!hpda!fortune!rburns@uw-beaver.arpa

I think the subject you brought out about unix and mac is a very intersting   
one. Fortune systems has announced a product which allows file transfer 
between the mac and the fortune over the applebus network. 
Potential extensions to this product (in my opinion, no necessarily that
of my employer) could include:
1) letting the unix machine emulate a hard disk to the mac, eventually 
allowing the mac to use parts of the unix file system.
2) allowing the mac to operate as a front end for a variety of existing 
mature unix applications such as netnews, electronic mail, and accounting
 programs. This would at least allow us to do away with the absurdity of using
vi for personal text editing. and would greatly reduce the load on the host
cpu for running these applications.
3) specialized shells, far more powerful than the schmidt shell now running on
the fortune could be used to make unix really friendly to use.
4) A connection with a unix machine could reduce the mac's weakness in 
scientific programming.
5) personally I like the mac for editing and interpreting code and prefer 
using unix for compilation and source code control

call Richard Tung at 415-593-9000 ex 2505 for info about ForTalk.
Good Luck
the views expressed above are not necessarily those of my employer.