[net.sci] Reference Sought: Global Warming, Coastal Flooding

tower@mit-prep.ARPA (Leonard H. Tower Jr.) (08/27/86)

A friend recently told me of an interesting study done by two
geologists.  He wasn't able to supply me with the reference, and I'm
hoping one of you can!

The study was an explanation of why none of the predicted sea coast
flooding has occured yet.  This flooding is predicated by those who
fore see global warming due to the CO2 and halogen-organics that have
been added to the atmosphere since the start of the Industrial
Revolution.  The geologists claim that the water added from melting
ice has about the same volume as the water that has been impounded in
reservoirs by dams et. al.

They claim that the impounding is slowing down, and sea coast flooding
will start soon.  If we seek to continue to prevent the sea coast
flooding with this technique, we have until the middle of the next
century.  Most of the easily used volumes are below sea-level.  The
following regions are among those that will have to be flooded:

   Caspian Sea, Russia and Iran
   Dead Sea, Israel and Jordan
   Imperial and Death Valleys, California, USA
   Quattar Depression, Egypt
   Congo River Basin and Lake Chad Basin, Zaire et. al.

Interesting set of ecological and political problems.  I hope other
solutions can be found.

Any how, can anyone provide me with a reference?

I'll mail (or post) the reference, if I get (enough) requests.

Thanx, Len
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berman@psuvax1.UUCP (Piotr Berman) (08/31/86)

Problem: ice-melting due to greenhouse effect may be a danger.
Some geologist claim we would already see some flooding, but
so far impounding water in reservoirs prevented it.  Now
> They claim that the impounding is slowing down, and sea coast flooding
> will start soon.  If we seek to continue to prevent the sea coast
> flooding with this technique, we have until the middle of the next
> century.  Most of the easily used volumes are below sea-level.  The
> following regions are among those that will have to be flooded:
> 
>    Caspian Sea, Russia and Iran
>    Dead Sea, Israel and Jordan
>    Imperial and Death Valleys, California, USA
>    Quattar Depression, Egypt
>    Congo River Basin and Lake Chad Basin, Zaire et. al.
> 
> Interesting set of ecological and political problems.  I hope other
> solutions can be found.
> 
> Any how, can anyone provide me with a reference?
> -- 
> Len Tower

It seems to me that it is not a good idea.  To prevent oceans to rise
by a foot, one would need to dispose more than 100,000,000 sq mile X foot
of water.  Levelling Caspian See with ocean level would absorb less
than one third of that.  All other regions would not add up as much
as that.  Thus, with enormous expenditures could diminish the flood by 8 
inches.  I would say: back to the drawing board.

Piotr Berman

bob@islenet.UUCP (Bob Cunningham) (09/07/86)

> The study was an explanation of why none of the predicted sea coast
> flooding has occured yet.  This flooding is predicated by those who
> fore see global warming due to the CO2 and halogen-organics that have
> been added to the atmosphere since the start of the Industrial
> Revolution...

A more reasonable explanation is that the predictions might be wrong.
My own:  global cooling has been occuring since the 1930's, and will
continue until next century...and only then will we see the results of
accumulated "greenhouse effect" warming.

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friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) (09/10/86)

In article <2785@islenet.UUCP> bob@islenet.UUCP (Bob Cunningham) writes:
>A more reasonable explanation is that the predictions might be wrong.
>My own:  global cooling has been occuring since the 1930's, and will
>continue until next century...and only then will we see the results of
>accumulated "greenhouse effect" warming.

	The problem with many of these predictions is that climate is
a very complex phenomenon. There are *natural* climatic cycles, the
shorter of which have a duration on the order of centuries. Until we
have a precise model of the *causes* of the natural cycles we have no
way of telling whether a given trend is natural or man-made. Thus,
even if the climate does begin to warm in the next century it may well
just be the natural up side of the current cooling trend! Though by
that time we will hopefully have the precise model necessary to
tell the difference.
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