[net.misc] 'Artificially' different products

ewp@ihuxn.UUCP (07/01/83)

A lot of time and effort is needed to do the physical design of hardware.  In
some cases the parts not needed are left off the boards (for example, a
memory board half empty).  In some cases the cost of separate assembly lines,
extra inventory, parts tracking, etc. make it cheaper to just
disable the unordered logic.  After all, you are paying for the value added
by the engineering, not just the cost of the parts.

Ed Pawlak
ihnp4!ihuxn!ewp

mjb@brunix.UUCP (Mike Braca) (07/06/83)

I was told once that IBM's TSS (time sharing system) OS has a configuration
parameter that allows you to set the "minimum response time". The purpose of
this, of course, is so users don't get used to fast response time when the
system is lightly loaded.

Mike Braca, Brown CS, {allegra,ihnp4,decvax}!brunix!mjb, mjb.brown@udel-relay

rh@mit-eddie.UUCP (Randy Haskins) (07/12/83)

	Several years ago, Hewlett-Packard made a calculator
	with a built-in stopwatch, and another calculator that
	was the same except for the stopwatch.  Naturally the
	latter calculator was cheaper.  However, by pressing an
	undocumented combination of buttons on the latter
	calculator, you could put it in the stopwatch mode that
	it wasn't supposed to have!

yeah, my dad just bought a remote control TV.  The box doesn't
have a mute switch on it, but if you press down two buttons
at once (I think it was CH-up and CH-down, because that's
more obscure than the volume buttons) it would mute.  He
was really blown away by that.  I guess you pay more for
not being inventive.
-- 
	Randwulf (Randy Haskins)
	genrad!mit-eddie!rh
 or...
  rh@mit-ee (via mit-mc)

ark@rabbit.UUCP (07/12/83)

stopwatches in calculators:  You may be talking about the HP-45 and
HP-55.  The HP-45 did indeed have an undocumented stopwatch feature
that the HP-55 had in documented form.  However, the HP-55 was also
programmable.  Furthermore, the -45 didn't have a crystal-based
oscillator, so the stopwatch was only accurate to 10% or so.

As for TI and HP calculators having the same chips -- I doubt it.
Casual investigation will reveal that the two machines give
significantly different results -- at least one TI I have seen
does its arithmetic to 13 places, of which the last few are
garbage, and HP's machines all do arithmetic to only ten places,
but with great care given to rounding and accuracy.  On the whole,
I'd trust HP's arithmetic more.

mark@hp-kirk.UUCP (07/17/83)

#R:ihuxn:-27300:hp-kirk:11300004:000:702
hp-kirk!mark    Jul 15 07:51:00 1983

        The HP45 calculator did indeed have a stopwatch built-in that was
     not a documented feature of the product; however, this was the only
     version of this product ever put on the market.  As far as any common
     hardware between HP and TI calculators go, not a chance.  All of the
     integrated circuits for HP's calculators were developed by HP
     specifically for those calculators and are not available outside the
     company.  I am not certain, but I suspect that the same is true of the
     TI calculators.
                                        Death Rowe
                                        hp-pcd!hp-cvd!mark
                                        Corvallis, Oregon