[net.misc] Are you *sure* you cant be sure?

trc@houti.UUCP (T.CRAVER) (07/15/83)

Response to cca!charlie:

First, the reference frame business only applies to non-accelerating
frames of reference (I think - I am certainly not an expert on this!)
I the Earth were sitting still, the rest of the universe would have
to be moving with speeds vastly greater than the speed of light.

Second, even religious people cant claim to know, in the sense you
want - ie an absolute sense, because their claim to knowledge is based
upon faith in unprovable supernatural entities.  They may *feel* sure,
but that is a whole lot different from *being* sure.  In fact, since
no human is omniscient, such "absolute truth" is impossible, and so,
as far as humans are concerned, is a "straw man" concept.  Its only
purpose is to discredit those that are sure, within the context of
the sum of their knowledge.  That is, those that know certain facts that
they know of no contradictions to, and plenty of evidence for, and so they 
can be *contextually* certain of those facts.  If contradictions do appear, 
in further observation, the "facts" are no longer able to be considered certain.

This is one difference between a scientist and a mystic - the scientist
will not continue to cling to a concept when presented with clear
contradictions to that concept.  The mystic will, and will even continue
to believe that the concept is "absolute truth", and will think up complex
rationalizations to cover up the contradictions.

	Tom Craver
	houti!trc

Anonymous@inmet.UUCP (07/20/83)

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inmet!Anonymous    Jul 18 06:46:00 1983

It's actually quite simple: there are no *absolutes*.

dee@cca.UUCP (07/21/83)

How can one claim there are absolutely no "absolutes"?????????????????