[net.music.classical] boring live performances

whp4@flairvax.UUCP (Bill Palmer) (04/30/84)

Someone pointed out that many performances they had heard recently were
dull and lifeless, and attributed this to the spectre of comparison with
'that perfect recording.'  Well, interestingly enough, a lot of artists 
and listeners feel exactly the opposite.  Some people feel that a live 
performance has a certain electricity that a recording spliced together
from a week's worth of recording sessions just doesn't have.  The April 1984
issue of Gramophone has an interesting article by Alfred Brendel entitled
"A Word in Favour of Live Recordings."  Well worth reading if you can get
your hands on a copy.

					Bill Palmer
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paul@oddjob.UChicago.UUCP (Paul Schinder) (05/01/84)

Those that think that live performances are boring should get a copy of
the recent Phillips release of Alfred Brendel and the Chicago Symphony
Orchestra performing live the five Beethoven piano concertos.  They are
neither dull nor lifeless.  I was fortunate enough to have attended the
concerts at Orchestra Hall, and they were truly amazing performances.

					Paul Schinder
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spoo@utcsrgv.UUCP (Suk Lee) (05/02/84)

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In case you can't get a hold of a copy
of Gramophone, Brendel's article,
"In Favour of Live Records", can be
found in the May issue of High Fidelity.

-- 

From the pooped paws of:
Suk Lee
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jho@ihuxn.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen) (05/02/84)

It is not clear to me whether live  performances  produce  better
music.  In recent years, I attended quite a few piano recitals by
big name pianists. Only, on rare  occasions,  I  found  the  live
performance  really  exciting.   Most recently, I attended Murray
Perahia's performance of Beethoven and Schubert music.  This  was
a  very  pleasant  surprised.   Perahia  had  few misses, but the
performance was  exciting,  and  full  with  life.  On the  other
hand,  I  recall  a dull Brendel performance.  I guess, we cannot
expect our performers to be at their  top  all the time.

Leonard Bernstein has been the proponent of live recording.   His
Brahms Symphonies performances are well known.  Recently, Philips
Issued a new recording  of  Wagner's  Tristan  und  Isolde,  with
Bernstein   and  The  Bavarian  Radio  Orchestra.  These  can  be
considered semi-life performance.  Each act  of  the  three  acts
was   recorded  separately.    Audience   was  present during the
recording  session.   I  find  this  recording   very   exciting.
Bernstein   puts   a  lot  of passion  and  fire  in  the  music.
I  liked  Isolda (Hildegard Behrens).  Peter Hofmann, Tristan, is
somewhat   weaker,   yet,   I  enjoyed   his   singing.   I  felt
that,  there was a good balance between  voice   and   orchestra.
Occasionally,    the   voice   was  somewhat   submerged   by the
orchestra sound. To describe it more accurately, the human  voice
sounded   as  one  of  the  orchestral instruments.  I found this
effect very desirable.

I have one  question,  Is  it  possible  to  have  a  real  great
performance   of   Wagner's  Ring  cycle?   Last  year  broadcast
(Gotterdammerung Live!) from  Bayreuth  was  enjoyable,  although
some  of the voices were far from great. Is it possible to gather
a great ensemble of singers to perform the Ring?

I don't think that live performances  is  the  answer  to  better
music.   Some of studio recording are great (e.g. Smetana Quartet
recording of Beethoven and Mozart String quartets on Deneon  CDs)
and  full of spirit.  The important factor is the attitude of the
performer.  I think there one great advantage for live  recording
is   that   the   recording  engineers  are  more  restricted  in
manipulating the sound.  They cannot place their microphones  too
close  to  the performer (I hope so) and they have less variables
to play with.  Less  microphones  and  less  mixing  is  a  great
advantage for classical recording.

To conclude, one cannot  make  a  clear  statement  that  a  live
performance has an advantage over studio performance.
-- 

Yosi Hoshen
Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois
(312)-979-7321
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larrym@tekchips.UUCP (05/04/84)

It isn't clear to me that being live makes or breaks a performance when it
comes to being boring.  There are a few some truly memorable live performances
that I can remember, as well as some great studio recordings.

This issue does bring up a question I have wondered about for some time (it
was started in net.audio, but doesn't seem right to continue there).  There
are some truly spectacular Sheffield recordings, mostly jazz, that have been
used as "ideals" of what recording can be (in the analog vs. digital forays).

How much of that spectacular sound is really due to anything in the recording
and how much is due to the fact the the musicians were really up for the
performance?  After all, they all knew that they had to record a whole side
in one sitting, no editing or correcting allowed.  It was right or it was
nothing.

I have always felt that the wonderfulness of those Sheffield recordings was
due to the energy and excitement that the musicians convey, more than their
sonic clarity.  Maybe if we ban recording editors...

				    Larry Morandi

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