[net.music.classical] Classical Music for Newcomers

wjm@whuxj.UUCP (MITCHELL) (05/02/84)

First, I'm glad to see that net.music.classical has arrived.
My suggestions for a few works to get people interested in classical
music are:
Beethoven:
1&2.The "Pastorial" and "Eroica" Symphonies - which will give them
    a good idea of the mature symphonic form of the nineteenth century.

3.  The "Emperor" piano concerto - I like Rudolf Serkin's version with
    Ozawa and the Boston Symphony on Telarc (10065).

Tchaikovsky:
4.  An orchestral version of the suite from "Sleeping Beauty" 
    which is a good example of the Romantic period.

Gershwin:
5.  "Rhapsody in Blue" - often coupled with "An American in Paris" - will
    give a good view of the early twentieth century in American music

Mozart:
6.  One of the serenades for string and wind instruments - the "Haffner"
    is a good choice as is the one for 13 wind instruments (K.297 ?)

7.  Piano Concerto No. 19 which is often coupled with No. 23 - I like
    the Alfred Brendel version with Neville Marriner and the
    Academy of St-Martin-in-the-fields on Phillips.

8.  The "Jupiter" symphony - which is a good example of an earlier
    symphonic form than Beethoven

Handel:

9.  Water Music - many versions available

Bach:
10. There are several recordings of short Bach pieces that will give a
    feel for his work - "The Notebook of Anna Magdalena Bach" on Nonesuch
    is a good one.

Vivaldi:
11. The "Four Seasons" will give a good feel for Baroque music - I like
    Gerald Schwartz's version on Delos.

Rachmaninoff:
12. Richter made a recording for DG of some Rachmaninoff preludes which
    is an excellent sampler of his piano music and an excellent example
    of the art of piano music in general.

This list of a dozen works is by no means exhaustive and certainly reflects
my prejudices - I don't like most 20th century music or German opera - but
should give a newcomer to the field an idea of what classical music is about.
I've tended to stick to full orchestra works  but one could easily add
some chamber or vocal works to the list.  Happy listening!
Bill Mitchell
Bell Communications Research, Inc.
Whippany NJ, (whuxj!wjm)

jho@ihuxn.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen) (05/02/84)

WHAT ABOUT CHAMBER MUSIC?

I have seen very few recommandation for chamber music for new comers.
What about:

Schubert's Trout Quintet

Mozart Clarinet Quintet

Schubert's Trio OP. 99

Mozart's flute quartets (I strongly recomand the performance be Rampal,
			  Stern, .. on the Colombia label for starters0

Beathoven's Archduke and Ghost Trios (may be?)

Brahm's Sextets (Op 18 and 36)

I think these piece's are melodical and would appeal to a starters
who may not like a full symphony orchestra sound.

Beethoven late quartets, definitely no!!!
-- 

Yosi Hoshen
Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois
(312)-979-7321
Mail: ihnp4!ihuxn!jho

ellis@flairvax.UUCP (Michael Ellis) (05/03/84)

Re: Chamber Music for Newcomers 

Other recommendations (at least these are what grabbed me way back when..)

Brahms is a major bonanza for chamber music lovers, particularly if you like
heavy thick chords and rich romantic harmonies. He was a perfectionist who
destroyed much of his own work that he judged inferior, and it is hard to
find anything he wrote that is not perfect, unless you just don't like
Brahms.  Highly recomended are the clarinet quintet, the piano quintet, and
the piano quartets, besides the marvelous sextets mentioned in Yosi Hoshen's
article. If you like the gypsy sounds in the 1st piano quartet, perhaps
Cesare Franck's wild and sensuous piano quintet will appeal to you as well.

If any composer specialized in chamber music, it was Gabriel Faure (who has
no symphonies, and very few orchestral works).  Most of Faure's work is
ethereal, poignant, perhaps not aggressive enough for some tastes. The two
piano quintets are a good introduction to his style.

Schubert has several string quartets that are well worth getting acquainted
with. In addition to the `Quartettsatz' and `Death and the Maiden' (which
makes really swell funeral music), one should really check out the soaring
quartet number 15 -- his last, and one of my all time favorite chamber
compositions. 

It is hard to agree with the recent admonition to beginners concerning
Beethoven's late string quartets! These were among the first chamber
compositions that appealed to me -- his other chamber music seems to pale
in comparison to these ears. This music is so elevated and sublime
that composers have been intimidated by the task of writing string quartets
ever since. Admittedly, we are not talking about party music here...

Though his relatively violent Grosse Fuge is still capable of emptying
rooms, I'd most strongly recommend the C-sharp minor quartet. The inner 5(?)
movements of this most unconventional piece meander thru a marvelous
sequence of subtle, quiet states that can produce an almost zen-like trance.
Space cadets should find much appealing in the earlier Rasoumovsky quartets
as well.

Shostakovich's string quartets strike me as the finest music he wrote, even
if you think his (frequently political) symphonies suck.  Those who are
inclined to dismiss this composer ought to hear his string quartets 4, 5, 7,
8, and 9. These are full of beautiful melodies, meditative interludes, and
pure magic.

A punk I know ended up jumping around the room on his first acquaintance
with the Bartok Quartets -- the vicious rhythms are capable of producing an
incredible adrenalin rush -- particularly numbers 3, 4 and 5. The quiet
parts of these are also particularly fun, full of expectant anxiety and
occasionally acheiving a weird, dreamlike kind of serenity.  This music is a
nightmare if you are really stuck in conventional sounds, however.

-michael

jho@ihuxn.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen) (05/05/84)

In recent article, I expressed my opinion that beginners should not
be encouraged to start their classical music carrier with Beethoven's
late quartets.  To which Michael Ellis replied:

>It is hard to agree with the recent admonition to beginners concerning
>Beethoven's late string quartets! These were among the first chamber
>compositions that appealed to me -- his other chamber music seems to pale
>in comparison to these ears. This music is so elevated and sublime
>that composers have been intimidated by the task of writing string quartets
>ever since. Admittedly, we are not talking about party music here...

I totally agree with Miachael's description of Beethoven late quartets.
I envy Michael for his ability to appreciate these masterpieces in
the early stages of his initiation to chamber music.  For years
chamber music was my preferred form of music.  Specifically, I
concentrated on chamber pieces by Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, and
Brahms, yet, Beethoven's late quartets eluded me.  Only, recently
I was able to truly appreciate these masterworks. I have several
friends who experienced the same problem I had.  I think beginners
should be exposed to less complicated forms of chamber music.  I
am concerned that Beethoven's late quartets may scare them away
from classical music.
-- 

Yosi Hoshen
Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois
(312)-979-7321
Mail: ihnp4!ihuxn!jho