dws@mit-eddie.UUCP (Don Saklad) (05/21/84)
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Subject: Music Editing
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There was an article in the BYTE magazine recently about music
editing. They described a system where you could "play" on
some sort of keyboard and the electronics would determine pitch
and duration. Then there would be a pseudo-score created. Since
we might not play exactly right, there would be funny times, melody
not emphasized, and phrases and dynamics needing to be added.
There was some fancy editing available.
I believe that stuff was fairly expensive but I don't remember for
sure. There might be some simpler/cheaper stuff mentioned also.
Anyway, it might be a pointer to get started. My suggestion is
to try back 2-5 months, maybe a little longer. Don't go back more
than one year because I'm sure I saw it relatively recently; I may
not have been looking at a current issue.
Good luck.
Maurice
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From: ihnp4!decvax!dartvax!lorien (Lorien Y. Pratt)
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Subject: Re: music editing
In-Reply-To: your article <1897@mit-eddie.UUCP>
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I know that the folks that make the Synclavier synthesizer, New
England Digital, of White River Junction, VT make something they
call Script, I think. This allows you to play on the keyboard
and the notes you play are posted to a document. You can
then move them around and have the synthesizer play them back to
you. I don't know much more, I just had it demonstrated to me
onced and was very impressed!
--Lorien Y. Pratt
Dartmouth College Library
Hanover, NH 03755
decvax!dartvax!loriengtaylor@cornell.UUCP (05/22/84)
The music editor described in the BYTE article might wellllllll be the Mockingbird, which was originally developed on a Xerox DOrado (which we can ALLLLLL afford). It was interfaced with a cheesy Yamaha e-piano, and wrote an approximate time-corrected version of the score, which was then checked over (for staves, spacing, beaming, etc. It will be interesting to watch this work, as many of the same basic concepts about software design found on the Dorado appear in some form on the Macintosh. I have already heard lovely rumours from friends here and abroad that some music editors may be in development soon for the Mac. It would certainly be cost effective, to say the least. Probably we'd have to wait for more memory. The Synclavier printer and editor is all it's cracked up to be (I only wish we had it on the "no-heater, no whitewalls" Synclavier I work on!). But SCRIPT per se as I remember it is a more old-fashioned computer music language, consisting of instructions grouped like regular structured programming instructions. To its credit, John Appleton and Co. have made a decent, flexible, and useful version of that way of working available. gtaylor
rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (05/23/84)
With the advent of MIDI, expect more and more independent software to be written with just that purpose in mind---composing and editing music. The companies who are supporting MIDI (including, I think, New England Digital) fully expect many "build-it-from-scratch" types to create such software themselves for MIDI compatible systems. Roland has even published the specs on their MIDI interface controller, so that this can take place without having people break open their boxes. (I believe the Synclavier is or will be MIDI-compatible, and the Kurzweil will definitely be. <--what a piano sound!) [PLEASE POST FURTHER ARTICLES ON THIS AND OTHER GENERAL MUSIC TOPICS TO NET.MUSIC IN ADDITION TO/INSTEAD OF NET.MUSIC.CLASSICAL, SO THAT ALL MUSIC LOVERS MAY BENEFIT.] (Do you realize that the original intended purpose of the original newsgroup net.music [in some charter or other] was for discussion of computer applications in music?) -- "You are not scream. You are not I-scream!!!" Rich Rosen pyuxn!rlr
gtaylor@cornell.UUCP (05/23/84)
Yep, the good dr. Rosen is once again dead on target. I got a copy of the MIDI specs, and they look really wonderful with the exception of the last page of the document I received: the dreaded "reserved system" listing of little prefacing codes for individual manufacturers: Only problem is, "WHAT ARE THEY??????" So far I've determined that the Yamaha DX series keyboards (which I'm looking into getting so I don't have to lean on the Synclavier at someone else's studio) don't understand the "unison" mode in the same way as everyone else (in digital you usually get a signal which is merely louder rather than thicker when you've got stuff in unison). It's not at all clear how the individual manufacturers will use the stuff for voice assignment, other keyboard tunings (it looks like you could do it by either begging Yamaha to burn you a prom or two or by hosing around with the microtonal possibilities provided that the sys allows you to individually do different bends on different notes in the "record" mode. g(angel trumpets, devil trombones...)taylor