[net.music.classical] Assumptions about chromaticism --> atonality

rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (06/15/84)

You know [HE SAID], I've been wondering what all this stuff really means
with regard to those who say/said: "Well, if you follow the path that Wagner
and other intensely chromatic composers were travelling on, you would get to
the point where there just wasn't any tonality anymore, so let's take the next
logical step and deliberately avoid tonality!"

The fact is, even in the most intensely chromatic moments of 19th century
music, you feel the grip of tonality.  It may lead you astray by making you
think the piece has reached a new tonal center, and then deceive you by
making a sudden dart to the left that feels like yet another "key",
finally (or is it really "finally"?) coming to rest on a harmonic base
that feels like "home", only to suddenly make a dramatic move to a totally
"unrelated" "key".  Chromaticism wasn't destroying tonality; it *was*
destroying the concept of *key*!!!  And all the rules of musical
comoposition that went with it about required modulations to the
sub-dominant and the relative minor and such.  Each *moment* had a tonal
center, even if it was only implied, and the increasingly unusual
movement between successive notes/harmonies was what chromaticism was all
about (especially when the unusualness evolved from linear cross-webbing
to form new and unheard of "modulations").  Combined with increasing
acceptance of "out-of-place" notes in the midst of otherwise "normal"
tonal harmonies THAT SIMPLY DID NOT CHOOSE TO RESOLVE THEMSELVES(!!!), one
gets a picture of what chromaticism was (is?) all about.  (Those like Debussy
chose to go about doing the same thing, but in very different ways.  While
occasionally shucking the rules of traditional harmonic motion, Debussy
retained the notions of harmonic tonalities, employing and extending and
expanding upon them, denying the concept that a chord could be "wrong" in a
given place in a certain harmonic motion pattern.)

So what can you say about a school of thought that elects to negate the
notion of tonality and tonal centers?  When someone said that they threw
away everything that went before, they weren't that far off the mark.  Oh,
sure, they kept up compositional rigor and rules, but they chose to
ignore the very idea of harmonic motion and its place in the listener's
fabric of understanding.  (It always amazes me that those like Berg, Webern,
Perle, et al have taken serialist notions and built such incredible music
with them.)

Compare this to Stravinsky's work.  Remember the passage leading up to the
finale of the Firebird?  Every chord a simple TONAL major or minor chord.
(Starting on the Eb minor chord and finally "resolving" on B major before
employing a diminished chord to lead into the B major "6-4" chord.)
But what is the "legal" harmonic basis on which he chooses to go from one
chord to the next?  None.  Give that man a ticket!  Next thing you know he'll
be writing Eb major chords on top of E major chords.  Dis-gusting!  (It's
been a while, but I once went through that passage to analyze what he was
doing; all I can remember is that it's more "regular" than first impressions
would indicate.)

In almost all chromatic music, ranging from the deceptive simplicity of
Chopin's Prelude in E minor (number escapes me) to the bombast of the
Liebestod, every moment has a tonality all its own (implied or otherwise),
and it is the passage from one moment's implied tonality (-ies?) to those
of the succeeding moments (in unusual ways) that makes chromaticism.  I'm not
saying that dodecaphony is musically WRONG; it's just different, in much
the way that other world musics differ from each other.  But to say that
it is a logical extension of Western tonal chromaticism seems to me to be
a blatant falsehood.
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						Rich Rosen    pyuxn!rlr

mat@hou5d.UUCP (M Terribile) (06/19/84)

Would someone mind giving a little lesson?

I have a rough understanding of what constitutes a key (tho' if you throw
out all sorts of funny different ``7th'' chords, I will throw up my hands and
leave) but will someone please explain what constitutes a ``mode'', and
why certain modulations are/are not legal, etc?  I realize that the answer
to all of this is probably ``42'' but as a listener who is trying to learn
ABOUT music (and even trying to learn to play, from time to time ...) I'd
appreciate it if some brave soul took a shot at it.  How about a series of
articles?
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					from Mole End
					Mark Terribile
		     (scrape..dig)	hou5d!mat
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