[net.misc] More: Palo Alto business & showers

dembry@hplabs.UUCP (Paul E. Dembry) (08/20/83)

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hplabs!dembry    Aug 19 15:49:00 1983

Yet another example of government dictating expensive rules and
regulations to harrass business.  If employees want showers, let
them ask for them.  There is absolutely no need for some mentally-
incompetent bureaucrat to REQUIRE that business install showers in
new facilities.

smb@ulysses.UUCP (08/22/83)

Assuming that the presence of showers really does work as claimed (something
about which I'll maintain a devout neutrality), it most certainly is a
government concern, not a business issue.  Questions of energy supply are
a collective concern, not an individual matter.  Almost any individual
company's efforts to help reduce the aggregate energy consumption are
worthless, and if it costs the company money to do so -- especially relative
to their competitors -- they're not likely to pay attention.  It is precisely
because of questions like this that I don't join in the great chorus of
"isn't government evil, stupid, and incompetent."  They may be wrong on
any given issue, but at least the problem is being addressed in the right
forum.

phil@amd70.UUCP (08/23/83)

Many of us asked for showers here at AMD. We were turned down:
too expensive. Since the cost of gasoline, auto insurance, etc
comes out of our pockets, I guess what management meant was
showers were too expensive for the company, and the overall
tradeoff was irrelevant.

AMD has a lot of good points and I don't want to single them
out for this, but rather to point out that government intervention
is called for in some cases.

(it is ironic I am using company facilities for this message)

	Phil Ngai

john@hp-pcd.UUCP (John Eaton) (08/24/83)

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hp-pcd!john    Aug 23 08:27:00 1983

Unfortunately the goverment is so large that whenever they try to solve a 
particular problem that they always seem to create a new set of related ones.
The bathroom is one of the more dangerous rooms in the house. Are we now going
to start seeing workmans comp claims for slipping in the shower? What if you
get athletes foot at work?. I'm expecting to see a water shortage next summer
where they will have to ration and forbid using showers at work.


John Eaton