[net.music.classical] J. S. Bach's Mass in B minor or the Passions: Which to buy?

lute@abnjh.UUCP (J. Collymore) (07/16/84)

I am trying to figure out which to buy, J.S. Bach's Mass in B Minor, St.
Matthew's Passion, or St. Luke's Passion.  I have never been overly fond
of choral works, but in the past year I have been getting more into them.

Before I lay out $25 to $45 dollars for these, I want to be sure that I am
getting a work that I will enjoy listening to.  In this case, that means that
I want one of the above works that has the MOST joyous music (i.e. jubilant
fanfares and choruses).  The more in the work, the better.  Please post
or send me mail.  Thanks.


					Jim Collymore

parker@psuvax1.UUCP (07/17/84)

My favorite of the three is easily the B Minor Mass.  You should
know that the work is a splendid mixture of both the more solemn
and the more buoyant of Bach's writing.  I find the Saint Matthew's
Passion tedious at best.  I haven't heard the Saint Luke's in a few
years but my impression is the same.

I don't understand why you would want to lay out $25 to $45, though.
My favorite recording is one by Michel Corboz and the Lausanne
Orchestra and Chorus on Erato which lists for $8.98 (if I'm
reading the Schwann correctly).  This is easily the most joyous
and spontaneous sounding recording I have heard.  Be warned --
it is not the best performed.  The soloists are not great --
in fact barely adequate.  The brass are nasal (this works to great
effect in the "Cum Sanctus Spiritu".  The orchestra is not always
together.  But the elan of the musicians so wonderful that I just
can't praise this recording enough.  Don't expect digital sound
here, either.  We're talking about music, not sound.  Leave that
for net.audio.

By the way, don't waste your money on Neville Marriner's recording
despite the glowing critical reviews.  This is typical stiff
British nonsense and conveys none of the joy of this great work.

Bruce Parker

dep@allegra.UUCP (Dewayne E. Perry) (07/19/84)

As a joyful intro to Bach, I would recommend Bach's Magnificat as a 
marvelous way to start off in Bach choral music - it is much shorter
and has some super pieces.

If the joyful aspect for choral music is what you are after, any of the 
masses of Mozart and Haydn will suffice.  For Haydn, particularly any
of the last six masses.  Then progress to Schubert masses and Brahms' 
LiebesLieder Waltzes.  For contemporary choral (emphasis on the joyful
part), try Bernstein conducting his Chichester Psalms.

Enjoy - it is great stuff - dep

marcus@pyuxt.UUCP (M. G. Hand) (07/22/84)

I, too, enjoy the Bminor more than the St Matt or St Luke - it contains
such a range of light and shade.  After that you might like to take
a listen to Haydn's Nelson mass (3rd) which I very much enjoyed perfoming
at one time, and still enjoy listening to it, too.  Vivaldi's gloria
is pretty much up tempo, too.

		marcus hand		(pyuxt!marcus)