mej@hlwpc.UUCP (Michael Jacobs) (10/26/84)
Can anyonerecommend a modern composer who's music sounds "classical," either in a baroque or a romantic sense? Everything I've heard that's been written in the last fifty years is either atonal, amelodic, repetitive (e.g. P. Glass) or simplistic (J. Williams). Doesn't anyone write beautiful, melodic, serious music anymore?
lwc@mgweed.UUCP (Larry Ciesla) (10/27/84)
I am a new reader to this newsgroup and a lover of classical music. With that aside, I'll say something outrageous: NEARLY EVERYTHING WRITTEN AS CLASSICAL MUSIC IN THE LAST 50 YEARS IS GARBAGE!!! It's as though composers forgot that they are supposed to be writing music that people can enjoy - that is pleasing to the ear. I've tried - really tried, to enjoy this stuff. My impression is that most modern composers are trying to outdo each other by writing music that sounds as if it originated on MARS! I'd rather listen to ROCK and ROLL. At least you can dance to it!
mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) (10/27/84)
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Can anyonerecommend a modern composer
who's music sounds "classical," either
in a baroque or a romantic sense?
Everything I've heard that's been written
in the last fifty years is either atonal,
amelodic, repetitive (e.g. P. Glass) or
simplistic (J. Williams). Doesn't anyone
write beautiful, melodic, serious music
anymore?
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Just this week heard the Toronto Symphony and the Toronto Childrens' Choir
give the world premiere of Andrew Davis' "Chansons Innocentes", which
seems to be just what you want (and original, as well). (Andrew Davis
conducting).
--
Martin Taylor
{allegra,linus,ihnp4,floyd,ubc-vision}!utzoo!dciem!mmt
{uw-beaver,qucis,watmath}!utcsrgv!dciem!mmtkevyn@watarts.UUCP (K. Collins-Thompson Math Frosh @ U of Waterloo) (10/28/84)
I attended an Andre Gagnon concert here at the University a couple
of weeks ago; it was excellent (and not just because he's a >gulp<
CANADIAN). He played, among other Romantic works by Chopin, Schumann,
etc., some of his own piano compositions. The first, which was titled,
"Neiges" (i.e. "Snow") reflects his style. It was "flowing", rich in
harmony, and subtle in its rhythms. He has released several
recordings (sorry, I don't know which company), including an album en-
titled "Neiges" which was very "popular" in Canada. BUT IT'S NOT MUZAK!
It's not "classical" either, but it's the closest thing there is to
music which I think will never be able to be "re-created". And this is
perhaps not at all a Bad Thing.
[ Celibacy is not hereditary ]
[ "Oh my!", said God. "I suppose I don't exist!" And he disappeared in a
puff of logic.]
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Kevyn Collins-Thompson ...watarts!kevyn [but I'm NOT an artsie...]
University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ont., CANADA Eh?
------------------------------------------------------------------------robison@eosp1.UUCP (Tobias D. Robison) (10/29/84)
How modern do you wnat your composers to be? There must be many who would satisfy your requirements, but in general, the older their music is, the easier they are to find. Try: The Hungarian composer Ligeti. Very witty, and not too atonal. (He has a piano piece that begins with the same note, palyed many times in different octaves, for over one minute. It's much mroe interesting than you one can imagine.) Try Stravinsky before he went atonal. He went through a classical period, which emphasizes his unique rhythms, and otherwise tends to sound classical. Example pieces -- the violin sonata, symphony in C. Try Hindemith, the pianoi sonatas, Mathis der maler, or the clarinet, bassoon, viola sonatas, etc. - Toby Robison (not Robinson!) allegra!eosp1!robison or: decvax!ittvax!eosp1!robison or (emergency): princeton!eosp1!robison
berry@zinfandel.UUCP (Berry Kercheval) (10/30/84)
In article <13129@mgweed.UUCP> lwc@mgweed.UUCP (Larry Ciesla) writes: > NEARLY EVERYTHING WRITTEN >AS CLASSICAL MUSIC IN THE LAST 50 YEARS IS GARBAGE!!! EVERYTHING? EVERYTHING? Even Vaughn Williams, Benjamin Britten and Howard Hanson? Them's fighten words! (But then I *LIKE* Messiaen...) -- Berry Kercheval Zehntel Inc. (ihnp4!zehntel!zinfandel!berry) (415)932-6900
jeffw@tekecs.UUCP (Jeff Winslow) (10/30/84)
> I am a new reader to this newsgroup and a lover of classical music. > With that aside, I'll say something outrageous: NEARLY EVERYTHING WRITTEN > AS CLASSICAL MUSIC IN THE LAST 50 YEARS IS GARBAGE!!! It's as though > composers forgot that they are supposed to be writing music that people > can enjoy - that is pleasing to the ear. I've tried - really tried, to > enjoy this stuff. My impression is that most modern composers are trying > to outdo each other by writing music that sounds as if it originated on > MARS! I'd rather listen to ROCK and ROLL. At least you can dance to it! I'll lay odds you ain't a new net user, though - only an old hand would try to start a violent and pointless controversy as earnestly as you are. Actually, modern composers *are* trying to write music that sounds like it comes from Mars. Martian composers have a tremendously advanced music (far superior to the Residents, for instance) and many composers would Van Gogh an inner ear to be able to write stuff like that. Back to your primordial semi-intellectual slime, Earthling! O^web Y (sorry, best I can do with roman letters) ...!moskvax!kremvax!olympus_mons!OwY332 (ignore name and address in header)
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (10/31/84)
> In article <13129@mgweed.UUCP> lwc@mgweed.UUCP (Larry Ciesla) writes: > > NEARLY EVERYTHING WRITTEN > >AS CLASSICAL MUSIC IN THE LAST 50 YEARS IS GARBAGE!!! > > EVERYTHING? EVERYTHING? Even Vaughn Williams, Benjamin Britten and > Howard Hanson? Them's fighten words! (But then I *LIKE* Messiaen...) > [BARRY KERCHEVAL] Obviously this has gone far enough. I speak for many people (one, actually) when I say that we (I) are (am) sick of having to weed through all these discussions about 20th century music, which is of course all garbage. Thus we (I) propose a new subgroup, called net.music.classical.real, which will leave those who clutter this newsgroup with talk of 20th century so-called music, and allow the rest of us who wish only to discuss real music the privacy of our own newsgroup. [THE PREVIOUS ARTICLE WAS SATIRE, AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS OPINION, FACT, OR ANYTHING IN BETWEEN.] -- "Good thing I didn't say anything about the dirty *knife*!" Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr
jeffw@tekecs.UUCP (Jeff Winslow) (11/02/84)
> Can anyonerecommend a modern composer > who's music sounds "classical," either > in a baroque or a romantic sense? > Everything I've heard that's been written > in the last fifty years is either atonal, > amelodic, repetitive (e.g. P. Glass) or > simplistic (J. Williams). Doesn't anyone > write beautiful, melodic, serious music > anymore? Is your last question serious? If so, your looking in all the wrong places. What makes you think atonal music isn't melodic? A careful listening of Berg's Wozzeck or Lulu reveals much beautiful music. But then, I guess these are moldy oldies now... You know, I really get nostalgic for a good absolute monarchy now and then. These modern democracies just don't have the glory and purpose of a Louis XIV, know what I mean? I am worse than you think, Jeff Winslow
bobr@zeus.UUCP (Robert Reed) (11/12/84)
How about Alan Hovanes? (spelling approximate). -- Robert Reed, Logic Design Systems Division, tektronix!teklds!bobr