[net.music.classical] Mahler & chamber music

chris@laidbak.UUCP (Chris Granner) (10/19/85)

hi there- 

Has anyone heard (about?) a version of the Mahler 4th Symphony for
chamber orchestra?

-cg (...!ihnp4!laidbak!chris)

carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) (10/21/85)

>Has anyone heard (about?) a version of the Mahler 4th Symphony for
>chamber orchestra?

This received its American premiere last night at the University of
Chicago in a concert given by Transit, a chamber ensemble composed of
members of the CSO, and conducted by Mark Prentiss.  Actually it was
Prentiss' reconstruction of Erwin Stein's 1921 transcription that was
performed, for the first time since 1921.  (The concert also featured
a performance of Tobias Picker's *Nova* (1979) with the composer at
the piano.)  The following is an excerpt from an article by Judith
Silverstein that appeared in UC's student newspaper.  

"The history of the manuscript transcriptions of [Mahler's 4th] is a
story of the persistent losses, findings, and reinterpretations of
culture in history.  Haunted by its initial critical failure, Mahler
revised the Fourth Symphony nearly every time he conducted its
performance.  After the last performance he conducted, in 1905, he
gave a copy of the score with final revisions to Arnold Schoenberg,
who put it in his library.  Ten years after Mahler's death [I think
this occurred in 1911 -- RC] the Schoenberg circle was in full swing
in Vienna.  An offshoot of the Schoenberg circle, The Society for
Private Musical Performances, was engaged in the arrangement of large
works for chamber orchestra.  In 1920, while Schoenberg was in
Holland, Erwin Stein worked on the arrangement of Mahler's Fourth for
chamber orchestra.  After much painstaking work, much trouble finding
musicians, and several trial-and-error performances, Stein arrived at
what he felt was a satisfactory score.  Unfortunately, the score and
all the solo parts were somehow lost, perhaps destroyed by Nazis in
their anti-Semitic campaign against Mahler.  However, a copy of
Mahler's 1902 score, marked by Mahler in red ink for the revision
published in 1906 and by Stein in pencil for the chamber revision,
remained in the library, along with Stein's correspondence detailing
his intentions for the chamber adaptation.  Using photocopies
provided by the Arnold Schoenberg Institute at USC, Mark Prentiss
reconstructed Stein's score for performance by Transit for flute,
oboe, clarinet, solo fiddle [sometimes called a "violin" -- RC], two
violins, viola, cello, bass, piano, harmonium -- the sounds of which
will be duplicated by synthesizer -- and soprano."

You can find out more about Transit by contacting Friends of New
Music, Inc., or the University of Chicago Music Dept.

P.S.  For those who were interested in ordering the recording of
Sorabji's O.C., I am trying to track down this information and will
post any information I come up with.  I mainly have to search through
my "files," i.e., the clutter in my office and apartment.
-- 
Richard Carnes, ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes

jeffw@tekecs.UUCP (Jeff Winslow) (10/22/85)

> 
> hi there- 
> 
> Has anyone heard (about?) a version of the Mahler 4th Symphony for
> chamber orchestra?
> 
> -cg (...!ihnp4!laidbak!chris)

I thought Mahler was under the impression that it was already written
for chamber orchestra. :-)

				Jeff Winslow

PS. Why was the original article submitted to net.flame?