[net.music] Holst and \"2001\"

DBarker%PCO@CISL-SERVICE-MULTICS.ARPA (01/02/85)

I  can  confirm  that  none  of the Planets was used in 2001.  - however
there  was  more  than  just  the  Strauss brothers on parade (that IS a
joke...).   In  particular  extracts  from  3  pieces  by  the Hungarian
composer  Gyorgy  Ligeti  -  Lux Aeterna, Requiem and Atmospheres - were
used  without his consent - I believe he even tried to sue Kubrick.  The
Requiem  extract  is  used when the apes are investigating the monolith.
Lux  Aeterna  when  the  moon  vehicle  is  travelling towards TMA-1 and
Atmoshperes when Dave Bowman takes his "trip" through the stargate.

I  agree  with  all  that has been said about John Williams "scores" for
recent  movies.   Basically  the  guy  is  a talentless dingbat who cons
people  with  (not-so)  elegant  pastiches  of  other  -  far  better  -
composers.   I  am assured (by people daft enough to have seen the film)
that  the  main  theme to E.T.  is a dead ringer for the theme from Born
Free  - they even rhyme!  And has no-one else noticed that the Star Wars
theme  and the Superman theme are practically identical - play one to me
with no visuals and I can't tell them apart.

I  suspect  that  Holst  may  be  out of copyright now - he died in 1934
(along  with  Elgar  and  Delius  -  a bad year for English composers!).
Certainly  he  wasn't  a  mere  9-10  years  ago  when  Imogen (Gustav's
daughter)  successfully  stomped  on  Tomita's electronic version of The
Planets  and made RCA (?) withdraw it after a few weeks on the shelves -
this is a rare record now...

jeffw@tekecs.UUCP (Jeff Winslow) (01/03/85)

Not only did Ligeti sue Kubrick over unauthorized use of his music in "2001",
but I believe he won. As of course he should.

It would be fairly humorous if John Williams ever decided to sue someone for
ripping *him* off.

                       "Gee, it sure sounded like Stravinsky to me!"
                                       Jeff Winslow