[net.origins] Son of Variable 'c' meets the Bride of Frankenstein's Ghost

dubois@uwmacc.UUCP (Paul DuBois) (09/06/84)

Enough already!  The following exchange...

> > [Ken Perlow]
> > I've heard a real creationist with a real PhD (in something) say that
> > the speed of light is changing, and used to be much higher, perhaps
> > infinite.  His "research" is provably bogus, however.  And clearly,
> > were the speed of light truly variable, *ALL* of post-Newtonian physics
> > would have to be thrown out.  Gadzooks--more than that!  Do you know
> > how many equations "c" figures into?
> 
> [Paul DuBois]
> About the speed of light:  not to dispute whether it is variable or
> not, but the sentiment expressed by Ken above may be characterized,
> perhaps, as unnecessarily dogmatic.  Not because it affirms a well-
> attested phenomenon or fact of the universe, but because it seems
> to be based on the idea "if it is does turn out to be variable,
> we have to rethink our physics?"  Is that unthinkable?

...resulted in the following three replies, all of which seem to
imply (especially the last) that I suggested above that c is
variable.


> [Ethan Vishniac]
> The problem with believing that c, the speed of light, is a function
> of time, is, as Ken pointed out, that a constant speed of light is
> a basic part of our current ideas about the nature of physics.  This
> ideas have been subjected to a great deal of experimental testing and
> so deserve to be taken seriously.  If there were any evidence indicating
> that c were, nevertheless, a function of time, then this would cause of
> a crises in modern physics.  This is not bad, this is exciting.  Since
> there is no such evidence, we can ignore the possibility.


> [Dick Dunn]
> It's not unthinkable, of course--but if you're going to make a major
> upheaval, you'd better have a good reason.  The problem with making the
> speed of light variable is one of the standard creationist problems
> occurring again--an attempt to dodge what we can observe or rewrite what we
> see in order to justify a theory, rather than developing the theory from
> what we can observe.  Science just doesn't work out very well if you do it
> backwards.
> 
> Stated differently, what is explained by allowing 'c' to vary?


> [Lew Mammel, Jr.]
> Let me assure Paul DuBois that I not only considered, but spent undue
> hours studying and analyzing "The Velocity of Light and The Age of the
> Universe" by Barry Setterfield.
> 
> Please note the tentative way that Paul advanced his suggestion that this
> concept is a victim of evolutionary dogmatism.

Since I have been (mildly) taken to task three times now, I suppose
I'd better respond:
	I expressly said I was *not* concerned with the question
	of whether c varies or not.  Ok?
-- 
Paul DuBois		{allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois

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