brianp@shark.UUCP (Brian Peterson) (09/01/84)
How's this for a blunt statement: Rick Hawkins does not understand thermodynamics. 3D >I'm just a country boy... what aspects of the law of Thermodynamics 3D >does creationism fit that is not adequately covered by more traditional 3D >explanations? 3D 3D The transition from order to disorder. Life requires/is characterized by 3D order. 3D rick (Rick Hawkins @ Olivetti ATC) Life is characterized by LOCAL order. Life dumps a load of disorder on the universe. The net is disorder. (Keep track of what happens to all the energy that gets used, and where it goes) Brian Peterson {ucbvax, ihnp4, } !tektronix!shark!brianp
hawk@oliven.UUCP (09/07/84)
Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: someone duznt know thermo References: <1030@shark.UUCP> [Anybody got some salt for my feet?] >How's this for a blunt statement: > > Rick Hawkins does not understand thermodynamics. > > >3D >I'm just a country boy... what aspects of the law of Thermodynamics >3D >does creationism fit that is not adequately covered by more traditional >3D >explanations? >3D >3D The transition from order to disorder. Life requires/is characterized by >3D order. >3D rick (Rick Hawkins @ Olivetti ATC) > >Life is characterized by LOCAL order. Life dumps a load of disorder on >the universe. The net is disorder. (Keep track of what happens to >all the energy that gets used, and where it goes) > >Brian Peterson {ucbvax, ihnp4, } !tektronix!shark!brianp How did I get myself into this??? Anyway, the argument is that life is characterized by order and that thermodynamics calls for a decrease in order of the closed system. I'm not trying to support the position, I was interested in seeing discussion about it. I think that I first saw this notion in a science textbook (chemistry or physics). [not in defense of creationism, just as an observation]. I'm rambling. The point is that I should have stated that that was the argument, or better yet kept my yap shut. Similarly, I'm not going to argue for or against the value of c changing over time. I would like, however, to see the discussions. I suppose that I should state my own position while I am at it. I really don't find the issue that important--I am much more concerned about *why* He created the universe than *how* He did it. As far as I'm concerned, there is no question as to whether or not He did it. Anyway, the next time I toss something out for the sake of argument without the intention or ability to support the position, I'll be careful to say so. -- rick (Rick Hawkins @ Olivetti ATC) [hplabs|zehntel|fortune|ios|tolerant|allegra|tymix]!oliveb!oliven!hawk