[net.origins] Natural vs. Supernatural

rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (09/15/84)

>	NATURALISM: the features that are present have arisen wholly
>		from present laws and processes;
>	SUPERNATURALISM: present laws and processes are inadequate to
>		explain current features; therefore, supernatural
>		intervention must have occurred.

Could someone please explain the fundamental difference between natural and
supernatural?  I mean, if a deity exists, it's part of the physical universe.
(Or, if you say "it's not" ["IT'S NOT!!"], thank you, then doesn't that
simply mean that our definition of "the universe" needs to be expanded to 
include it?)  If it "does" something, doesn't what it does qualify as a
physical event?

You may say "but we humans can't observe it with our senses, thus it's beyond
the physical".  But that's just an anthropocentric copout:  whatever "we
humans" can observe is physical, and everything else is paraphysical and
supernatural.  (The same arguments apply just as readily to other paranormal
supernatural phenomena.)  If it happens in the physical universe, it's a
physical event with physical causes.  Does anyone have a definition for the
"non-physical universe"??
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"Ohhhh, thank you, Master!!"			Rich Rosen    pyuxn!rlr