ward@hao.UUCP (Mike Ward) (09/20/84)
[] > A creation model must, obviously, include a creator. But a > creator is a religious (or at the least, supernatural) > concept and therefore cannot be part of a scientific model. > >These two requirements taken together rule out, by definition, >any possibility of a scientific creation model, right? Wrong! I, and I presume others, reject Divine Intervention as scientific because we have *NEVER* seen *ANY* scientific evidence of either God or of God's intervention. The thing that is ruled out is POSTULATING the existence of God. If you have evidence of His existence, then by all means, let us know about it. If you have evidence of the existence of any creator, then by all means, let us know. >The reason I haven't given a model is that I do not >(yet) see that it is worth it. If any such attempt will be >ruled invalid by definition, what's the point? I'm still willing >to give one, and to demarcate what would be considered outside >of the realm of scientific inquiry (i.e., what the model could >not explain). My question is, shall I try? Yes! Do try. It's easy to punch holes in the present theory of evolution. The scientists who work in that field have done a far better job that have you. We all know that the theory of evolution is neither perfect nor complete. If you have a better theory, let's hear it. By the way, the discussion of origins is not and cannot be an argument between evolution theories vs creation theories. That dichotomy does not exist. I, myself am a creationist in that I believe that *ULTIMATELY* God created reality. I am an evolutionist in that I believe that God created reality with a set of natural laws, and that He does not break those laws, and that we can understand those laws, and that currently the theory that best explains the portion of reality under question is the theory of evolution. It's easy to be both. So if you have something to contribute, let us know what it is. -- Michael Ward, NCAR/SCD UUCP: {hplabs,nbires,brl-bmd,seismo,menlo70,stcvax}!hao!ward ARPA: hplabs!hao!sa!ward@Berkeley BELL: 303-497-1252 USPS: POB 3000, Boulder, CO 80307