bill@utastro.UUCP (William H. Jefferys) (11/30/84)
Creation/Evolution Issue #XIV
Table of Contents
"Creationists, Population Growth, Bunnies and the Great Pyramid", by
David H. Milne. According to Henry M. Morris, extrapolation of the
population of the world in 1800 A.D. backwards by the rate of population
growth of the world between 1650 A.D. and 1800 A.D. shows that there were
just two people (guess who?) in the year 4500 B.C. This article shows
how the same assumptions used by Morris lead to other conclusions, such
as that in 2500 B.C., when the Pyramids were built, the world population
was 750 individuals. Since half of these were women and half of the
remaining males were children, we must assume that the Great Pyramid was
constructed by under 200 individuals.
"But Some of Them *Are* Scientists, Aren't They?", by Ronald H. Pine.
An examination of the difference between science and other human activities,
and a discussion of why, in nearly every case, even those Creationists
with scientific training are not engaged in the pursuit of science.
"Creationist and Fundamentalist Apologetics: Two Branches of the Same Tree"
by Robert M. Price. The role of Christian Apologetics in Creationism.
Relevant to the recent discussion in this newsgroup "Creationists are not
Stupid".
"Footprints in the Dust: The Lunar Surface and Creationism" by Steven
N. Shore. Creationists claim that the amount of dust on the Moon is
much too small to have been deposited there over 5 billion years time.
Points out the evidence that creationists ignore in this claim and
shows what conclusion is inevitable based on the best available evidence.
"Uniformity and Creation: A Response to Edwords and Thwaites" by
Norman L. Geisler. Geisler is a Creationist. In this article he
explains that since it is evident that Mount Rushmore was built
by intelligent hands, it is obvious that DNA was similarly the
product of an intelligent Creator.
"Apples and Oranges: A Response to Geisler" by Fredrick Edwords.
Edwords' response to the previous article. Among other things he
shows that Geisler's logic can be used to show that the naturalistic
origin of life *has already been demonstrated* in the laboratory.
Letters to the Editor. A response to a previous article by Norman
Geisler. Letter from a former Creationist. Letter from a Christian
who is deeply worried about the bad name being brought upon Jesus
and his message by Creationists. And more...
News Briefs. Recent defeats of Creationism in California, Iowa, Texas.
Progress of the Louisiana case. Responses of Creationists to defeats
in the Legislatures and Courts. Surprise! Having been unsuccessful
in getting Creationism into the classroom legally, they are now trying
to do it through the back door.
The next issue will be devoted to the Paluxy tracks. A team of four
scientists visited the site in 1982-83, and even observed the creationists
at work uncovering the prints. You won't want to miss this!
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"When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will evolve"
Bill Jefferys 8-%
Astronomy Dept, University of Texas, Austin TX 78712 (USnail)
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bill%utastro.UTEXAS@ut-sally.ARPA (ARPANET)gjk@talcott.UUCP (Greg J Kuperberg) (12/02/84)
> Creation/Evolution Issue #XIV ... > "Creationists, Population Growth, Bunnies and the Great Pyramid", by > David H. Milne. According to Henry M. Morris, extrapolation of the > population of the world in 1800 A.D. backwards by the rate of population > growth of the world between 1650 A.D. and 1800 A.D. shows that there were > just two people (guess who?) in the year 4500 B.C. This article shows > how the same assumptions used by Morris lead to other conclusions, such > as that in 2500 B.C., when the Pyramids were built, the world population > was 750 individuals. Since half of these were women and half of the > remaining males were children, we must assume that the Great Pyramid was > constructed by under 200 individuals. Let's see... The current world population is ~4 billion, which is close to 2^32. The world population currently doubles every 47 years. Extrapolating backwards, we get that there were only two people on earth 31*47=1464 years ago. Thus the human race was created circa 500 A.D. So much for extrapolations. --- Greg Kuperberg harvard!talcott!gjk "Eureka!" -Archimedes
keithd@cadovax.UUCP (Keith Doyle) (12/04/84)
>Let's see... The current world population is ~4 billion, which is close to >2^32. The world population currently doubles every 47 years. >Extrapolating backwards, we get that there were only two people on earth >31*47=1464 years ago. Thus the human race was created circa 500 A.D. >So much for extrapolations. > Greg Kuperberg On the contrary! I think we should consider this as hard evidence that God waved his wand in 500 A.D., *poof*, and we should attempt to adjust our theories to fit. Keith Doyle {ucbvax,ihnp4,decvax}!trwrb!cadovax!keithd "You'll PAY to know what you REALLY think!" P.S. :-) * .5