[net.origins] Teaching...

muffy@lll-crg.ARPA (Muffy Barkocy) (12/17/84)

> > Of course, if textbooks had to include all of the half-truths
> > and wild assertions needed to support creationism, the teachers would
> > find it difficult to be heard over the laughter of all the students.
> > 
> > 
> Unfortunately, not. Students, especially grade schoolers, believe what their
> teachers tell them. Critical thinking is something that must be taught, it's
> not instinctive. Indeed, the instinctive response is to accept what the
> authorities tell you. Creationists are focusing their attacks on the schools
> because they realize that that is where the mind of our nation is most
> vulnerable. 

hmmm...well, as to teaching.  I like to hear about everything, but
I obviously cannot learn everything at once (at least, not that I
*know* of...*grin*), so I have had to trust to the school authorities
to filter what I am taught, such that I get it at a reasonable rate.
Of course, this is not such a good method.  In fact, I lived in Richmond,
Virginia for a while, specifically while I was taking high school
Biology.  Turns out that, in the county of Richmond that I was in, 
we learned about all the systems in the human body.  In the other
county, they felt that the pictures in the chapter on the reproductive
system were offensive, or some such, so they removed the entire system
from the book.  (*laugh*...this makes me wonder about a few things,
but I won't get into it). 
Anyway, I see no reason why children shouldn't be exposed to both 
views under discussion, except:
	  1)  I believe that people should not shove their ideas
		  into someone else, although they should always feel
		  free to present them.  This doesn't seem to work too
		  well with education.  There tends to be bias in favor
		  of personal points of view, both on the part of the 
		  teachers and administration of the school, and on the
		  part of the authors of the textbooks.

      2)  As stated above, there is not *time* to learn everything.
		  I'm not sure that it's good to present all points of view
		  on a topic, since this *does* take up time, and there is
		  so *much* to learn.  Of course, since the absolute truth
		  of things is hard to determine, there is no way to surely
		  select the "best" view to teach.  I have no answers, sorry.

      3)  I think that it would be very confusing for people to have
		  all sorts of views suddenly presented to them.  I know *I*
		  would be confused, although I trust in myself to sort the
		  mass of information out eventually.  I've only just started
		  reading this topic, and I still don't know much about the
		  ideas being presented, although I'm digesting it (give me
		  time, I just read this stuff today).  Again, there are no
		  answers to this.  A related problem is the *order* in which
		  to present the views, since this might have something to do
		  with the acceptance of one view over another.

I'm not presenting any solutions, I'm afraid.  I'm not too fond of
education in general, but I haven't figured out how to improve it...
yet.  All I know is that people shouldn't be restricted.  I wish more
people would teach children *HOW TO LEARN*.  If everyone knew how to
learn things, how to go find information for themselves, and how to
be careful not to just believe everything they hear/read/whatever,
then we could just say, "okay, there are these five major points of
view, why don't you check them out..."

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 Behind from where we came
 And go 'round and 'round and 'round in the circle game...^
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