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pmw@omsvax.UUCP (10/20/83)

  wait about 30 seconds before hanging up and
  YOU TOO! can find out that 5PM Pacific Daylight
  Time is 00:00 Coordinated Universal Time!

  why did they chose 5PM PDT as the time base?

  signing my name anyway,

    Pat Walsh 
    ...ogcvax!pmw

leiby@yeti.UUCP (Mike Leibensperger) (10/25/83)

Perhaps they chose 5PM PDT as the base for "Coordinated Universal Time"
because that's the beginning of Happy Hour in Los Angeles?  :-)
-- 
Mike Leibensperger,  Massachusetts Computer Corporation
...!{ucbcad,tektronix,harpo,decvax}!masscomp!leiby

karn@eagle.UUCP (10/28/83)

Coordinated Universal Time (UTC, the letters are reordered because it is
really a French acronym) is the "new" name for Greenwich Mean Time
(GMT).

This is the local standard time at Greenwich, England, longitude 0
degrees.  Since the United States is in the western hemisphere (well,
most of it anyway), our local times all lag behind UTC:

EDT: UTC - 4 hours
EST & CDT: UTC - 5 hours
CST & MDT: UTC - 6 hours
MST & PDT: UTC - 7 hours
PST: UTC - 8 hours

Therefore, 0000 UTC -> 1700 (5 pm) PDT on the previous day.

Phil

CSvax:Pucc-H:Pucc-I:Pucc-K:ags@pur-ee.UUCP (10/30/83)

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	BBRRRRRRRRR.
	
	00:00 is 12 am (bedtime), not 12 pm (lunchtime).
	
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  Wrong again.  00:00 is neither AM nor PM.  12:00 is neither AM nor PM.
AM is 00:01 to 11:59 and PM is 12:01 to 23:59 (unless you are specifying
times down to the second, in which case AM is 00:00:01 to 11:59:59, etc.).

				Dave Seaman
				..!pur-ee!pucc-k:ags

pcc@hlhop.UUCP (11/04/83)

Dave Seaman makes the statement that 12:00 midnight and 12:00 noon are
neither a.m. nor p.m.  However, to avoid using them only adds to the 
confusion for people who are unaccustomed to 24 hour time format.  And
this is certainly the vast majority.  Perhaps some other annotation
should be adopted.  How about 12:00 o.m. (opposite meridian) for midnight
and 12:00 m. (meridian) for noon.  How about it, netters?  Shall we
establish a universal standard?


                                    Pete Criqui
                                    WECO @ BTL - Short Hills, N.J.

P.S.  I haven't figured out how to get my proper
      name and location into the article heading
      yet.  Advice will be heeded.

neal@denelcor.UUCP (Neal Weidenhofer) (11/07/83)

I've personally adopted the convention that midnight "belongs to" A.M.
and that noon is 12:00 P.M. based on the fact that all of the digital
watches and clocks that I've seen work that way.  Try it, it's convenient.

			Regards,
				Neal Weidenhofer
				Denelcor, Inc.
				<hao|csu-cs|brl-bmd>!denelcor!neal

ljs@hlhop.UUCP (11/08/83)

It seems to me that the convention is
	12:00 N = noon
	12:00 M = midnight

Nicht wahr?

Lotta Stallman
BTL Short Hills
(The room next to Pete Criqui)

mark@hp-pcd.UUCP (mark) (11/09/83)

#R:omsvax:-71000:hp-kirk:11300011:000:741
hp-kirk!mark    Nov  7 10:26:00 1983

I have seen references both ways and would appreciate a
definative answer but my current desk almanac states that the
following would be three consecuative seconds:
      Thu. 11:59:59 pm
      Thu. 12:00:00 pm
      Fri. 12:00:01 am
This would have the undesirable feature of having the am/pm break
between 1200 and 1201, but has the desirable feature of having
midnight belong to the previous day.  That is midnight Thursday
follows Thursday evening which I believe corresponds to most
people's use of the word.  Note however that in 24 hour time Thu.
2359 is followed by Fri. 0000 not Thu. 2400.  Comments?

                              Mark Rowe
                              hp-cvd!mark
                              Corvallis, Oregon

notes@ucbcad.UUCP (11/11/83)

#R:hlhop:-19700:ucbcad:23100001:000:286
ucbcad!max    Nov  4 20:51:00 1983

There already is a "universal" standard -- if you use a.m. (ante [before]
meridiem) and p.m. (post [after] meridiem), then m. (meridies) is
logically (and conventionally) noon.

As for me, I prefer "noon" and "midnight".

	Max Hauser, University of California

	(...ucbvax!ucbcad.max)

futrelle@uiucdcs.UUCP (futrelle ) (11/17/83)

#R:omsvax:-71000:uiucdcs:10600126:000:187
uiucdcs!futrelle    Nov 16 18:01:00 1983

I always thought that THESE were 3 consecutive seconds:
	11:59:59 pm
	12:00:00 am
	12:00:01 am
Most watches do it this way.  (At least MINE does, and there
must be some kind of standard)