[net.origins] Preachin' your ass, Ken.

hua@cmu-cs-edu1.ARPA (Ernest Hua) (05/02/85)

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> Colin Rafferty says, 'creationists belief stems from a fear of the death
> of the entire human race'.  As if it were a sign of a weakness, sort of a
> philosophical or emotional limp handshake.
> 
> I think that he has it backwards!

Nope.  YOU have it backwards.

> It is precisely the 'creationist' believer in a God who has given meaning
> to the dance who can bridge the existential gap created by the thought of
> the collective as well as the individual death of mankind.  My word, what
> is the whole message of Christianity?  "Death where is thy sting?  Death is
> swallowed up in victory!" Etc, etc, etc.  BECAUSE PAUL WHO WROTE THOSE LINES
> WAS HIMSELF, AND RELIED UPON, THE EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS OF THE RESURECTION OF
> JESUS CHRIST WHICH VALIDATED HIS (CHRIST'S) CLAIMS TO BE GOD APPEARING IN
> THE FLESH AND HEALING DEATH.

It continues like this ...  And creationists try to convince me that they
have no religious motivation ... "It's pure science!" ... BS.  Thanks for
your exposition on your shallow historical/literary knowledge.  But let
me remind you that this is a scientific discussion forum.  You have done
nothing less than further prove the accusation that you people are really
after the religious implications of evolution.  GOD and science?!  Please
spare me the tall tales.  In fact, you guys may not be afraid of nuclear
war at all.  After all, GOD said Armageddon was coming anyway, so this
must be it!  I am fearful because our wonderful president happens to be-
lieve along these lines.  Relief indeed!  But not what YOU are thinking
of!

for references sake, here is the rest of your marvelous article:

> And remember it is not only the creationists who fear the extinction of the
> race.  Perhaps you recall the reviewers panning the novel of Nevile Shute,
> ON THE BEACH which depicted the wipe out of mankind by nuclear war.  A
> topic of current concern, eh?  The Extentialist movement in philosophy
> so recently out of fad built it's appeal on just this point.  So much of
> modern art, story and song depicts a fear of extinction.  As does much
> strutting and posturing and whistling in the dark that goes on along with
> the smarmy sentiments about the individual living on in the life of the
> race and so having meaning.
> 
> It's so 'modern' and 'young' and 'Rosen' to be unafraid, ain't it.
> "Look at me with my health, youth, and low credit card balance, I'm not
> afraid of death!"
> 
> What does Bill say?  "Life's a stage . . . full of sound and fury . . .
> a tale told by an idiot . . . is it noblier in the mind to resist or
> kill oneself? . . . . "
> 
> Or Robert Lewis in THE RAVEN.  Remember he lost his beloved in the prime
> of life.  Want to jump off a bridge, read THE RAVEN, really read his
> heart's cry some lonely dark evening.  "Will I ever see my Lenore again?
> he asks.  And the raven keeps saying 'Nevermore!'.  
> 
> Or go to yet another funeral and hear the vacuous sentiments expressed
> in a non-Christian (read non-evangelical) service.
> 
> Even those empty phrases about 'us' carrying on are torn from view
> in modern life and we realize we can loose the whole bannana!  And some
> nitwit stands up in the back and says "Fear not, it's natural."  Like
> a high fibre breakfast cereal - 'Death is the breakfast of all mankind.'
> Like cuts and bruises, polio and C Interuptus are 'natural'.  But are 
> they right, moral, the way things 'ought' to be?  To say that's the way
> they ARE is no answer.  Unless you love 'em.
> 
> Wait mom.  There's nothing on my slide rule about death!  What a relief.
> It's not 'real'.  A non question.  
> 
> I spell relief (from death) S C I E N C E !
> 
> Preachin' ?  You bet.
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Live long and prosper.
Keebler { hua@cmu-cs-gandalf.arpa }