arndt@lymph.DEC (05/05/85)
I said: "EVOLUTION IS A THEORY ABOUT A PROCESS THAT HAPPENED LONG, LONG AGO AND FAR, FAR AWAY AND NOBODY EVER SAW IT, AND IT HAPPENED, WE SPECULATE UNDER PROCESSES NOT NOW HAPPENING - 'life' arising from non-life in the great cosmic Cambell's soup kitchen." Keebler (what's your first name, guy?) responded: Since when did evolution stop? Are you kidding me or what? No wonder you are griping about evolution! You don't even know what it is! ************************ Look. (Tom, Dick or Harry) Live long and prosper, but get some new specs for your nose or something. If you READ what I wrote you will see that I am refering to 'life arising from non-live', A PROCESS THAT NO ONE SAYS IS HAPPINING TODAY!!!!!! And that everyone (except you evidently) says happened under processes that were the result of conditions that DO NOT exist today because the earth was a different place physically. I was NOT, clearly, talking about the claim that species, etc., evolution does not happen today although we could indeed talk about that. WHO doesn't understand evolution???? I accept your humble apology for misreading, misunderstanding, and not knowing what you were talking about. You have written some interesting things which I have enjoyed reading. I'd like to address a few of them if I ever get the time. DEC expects me to work during the day and the rug rats expect me to read to them, etc. at night and mommy expects a whole lot more, so my time is limited. Keep chargin' Ken Arndt
padraig@utastro.UUCP (Padraig Houlahan) (05/05/85)
> > I said: > > "EVOLUTION IS A THEORY ABOUT A PROCESS THAT HAPPENED LONG, LONG AGO > AND FAR, FAR AWAY AND NOBODY EVER SAW IT, AND IT HAPPENED, WE SPECULATE > UNDER PROCESSES NOT NOW HAPPENING - 'life' arising from non-life in the > great cosmic Cambell's soup kitchen." This has nothing to do with evolution. > Keebler (what's your first name, guy?) responded: > > Since when did evolution stop? Are you kidding me or what? > No wonder you are griping about evolution! You don't even know > what it is! > > ************************ > > Look. (Tom, Dick or Harry) Live long and prosper, but get some new > specs for your nose or something. > > If you READ what I wrote you will see that I am refering to 'life arising > from non-live', A PROCESS THAT NO ONE SAYS IS HAPPINING TODAY!!!!!! And > that everyone (except you evidently) says happened under processes that > were the result of conditions that DO NOT exist today because the earth > was a different place physically. I was NOT, clearly, talking about the > claim that species, etc., evolution does not happen today although we could > indeed talk about that. > > WHO doesn't understand evolution???? Good question, since evolution has nothing to say about origins. You however have said that it does, in your above definition. Care to post a correction? > I accept your humble apology for misreading, misunderstanding, and not > knowing what you were talking about. > > Ken Arndt We await yours. Thanks in advance, Padraig Houlahan.
cej@ll1.UUCP (One of the Jones Boys) (05/07/85)
Responding to Keebler, Ken A. writes; > If you READ what I wrote you will see that I am refering to 'life arising > from non-live', A PROCESS THAT NO ONE SAYS IS HAPPINING TODAY!!!!!! And > that everyone (except you evidently) says happened under processes that > were the result of conditions that DO NOT exist today because the earth > was a different place physically. I was NOT, clearly, talking about the > claim that species, etc., evolution does not happen today > > WHO doesn't understand evolution???? However, reguardless of what Ken says he said, what he stated is below: > "EVOLUTION IS A THEORY ABOUT A PROCESS THAT HAPPENED LONG, LONG AGO > AND FAR, FAR AWAY AND NOBODY EVER SAW IT, AND IT HAPPENED, WE SPECULATE > UNDER PROCESSES NOT NOW HAPPENING - 'life' arising from non-life in the > great cosmic Cambell's soup kitchen." As expressed before Ken, EVOLUTION, does not concern where it all started, just how it's progressed. Your redefining of the term to include "'life' arising from non-life" does NOT make it part of the definition. Hence, EVOLUTION is still happening today, right now. (Belive it or not :-) ) Obviously, the 'origional event' is not happening today, nor does anyone claim it is. ------------------------------------------------------------------ disclaimer: no sane man thinks as I do ------------------------------------------------------------------ ...mgnetp!ll1!cej Llewellyn Jones ------------------------------------------------------------------~r
friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) (05/10/85)
In article <2011@decwrl.UUCP> arndt@lymph.DEC writes: > >I said: > >"EVOLUTION IS A THEORY ABOUT A PROCESS THAT HAPPENED LONG, LONG AGO >AND FAR, FAR AWAY AND NOBODY EVER SAW IT, AND IT HAPPENED, WE SPECULATE >UNDER PROCESSES NOT NOW HAPPENING - 'life' arising from non-life in the >great cosmic Cambell's soup kitchen." > >Keebler (what's your first name, guy?) responded: > >Since when did evolution stop? Are you kidding me or what? >No wonder you are griping about evolution! You don't even know >what it is! > >************************ > >If you READ what I wrote you will see that I am refering to 'life arising >from non-live', A PROCESS THAT NO ONE SAYS IS HAPPINING TODAY!!!!!! And >that everyone (except you evidently) says happened under processes that >were the result of conditions that DO NOT exist today because the earth >was a different place physically. I was NOT, clearly, talking about the >claim that species, etc., evolution does not happen today although we could >indeed talk about that. > Ah, now I understand how we misunderstood one-another! You originally said that EVOLUTION is not happening today, when what you really meant is that Abiogenises is not happening today. The two things are entirely seperate theories, being studied by scientists in entirely different specialists. In the scientific community the term evolution is restricted to the theory(or theories) about the origin of *species* from one-another. -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) {trwrb|allegra|cbosgd|hplabs|ihnp4|aero!uscvax!akgua}!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen or {ttdica|quad1|bellcore|scgvaxd}!psivax!friesen
brower@fortune.UUCP (Richard Brower) (05/13/85)
In article <2011@decwrl.UUCP> arndt@lymph.DEC writes: >I said: > >"EVOLUTION IS A THEORY ABOUT A PROCESS THAT HAPPENED LONG, LONG AGO >AND FAR, FAR AWAY AND NOBODY EVER SAW IT, AND IT HAPPENED, WE SPECULATE >UNDER PROCESSES NOT NOW HAPPENING - 'life' arising from non-life in the >great cosmic Cambell's soup kitchen." > >Keebler (what's your first name, guy?) responded: >> >>Since when did evolution stop? Are you kidding me or what? >>No wonder you are griping about evolution! You don't even know >>what it is! > >If you READ what I wrote you will see that I am refering to 'life arising >from non-live', A PROCESS THAT NO ONE SAYS IS HAPPINING TODAY!!!!!! And >that everyone (except you evidently) says happened under processes that >were the result of conditions that DO NOT exist today because the earth >was a different place physically. I was NOT, clearly, talking about the >claim that species, etc., evolution does not happen today although we could >indeed talk about that. The "Theory of Evolution" is a theory about processes happening today. That one extremely small portion of it may be taken out of context and used incorrectly, as you did, is par for the course. All of the original *processes* are proceeding now, as they were then. Periods when "natural laws", or in this case chemical interactions, are suspended, are a mark of the "Creationist Theory" and should not be attributed to the "Theory of Evolution", which specificly denies them. Not only did you attribute such periods to the "Theory of Evolution" in your first paragraph, after being corrected by Ernest Hua, you do it again. No wonder you are griping about evolution, you don't even know what it means. Richard A. Brower Fortune Systems {ihnp4,ucbvax!amd,hpda,sri-unix,harpo}!fortune!brower