[net.origins] Now more than ever. PART IV

hua@cmu-cs-edu1.ARPA (Ernest Hua) (05/18/85)

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> { from: miller@uiucdcsb.Uiuc.ARPA (A Ray Miller) }
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> Personal comment here.  Why don't you evolutionists all move your
> homes over a toxic waste dump?  Mutations are how you claim evolution
> progresses; increasing the mutation rate should increase the rate
> of evolution.  Should we disband the EPA?  I'd really like an answer
> to this question from any evolutionist who doesn't consume heavy
> metals with his scrambled eggs for breakfast.

First, you have made the gross error of applying science to ethics.
I have already discussed this in a previous article, and the basic
idea is:  Science does not directly determine moral/ethical ideas,
and morals and ethics do not determine scientific validity.

Second, evolution discusses net change over several generations,
not instantaneous change.  By the way, if some society evolves in
which people tended to move themselves over toxic waste dumps, the
society would probably become extinct very quickly, unless they
development some method of preventing the waste from producing too
many lethal mutations in their group and/or some method of making
the waste useful (such as food) and/or ...

Third, even from a simplistic point of view, I can still argue
against you.  If my goal is survival, why in the world would I
want to increase my chances of instantaneous death?  There is
some inherent selfishness in this ... I, myself, want to sur-
vive.  We, as a specie, want to survive.  That is why we have
EPA in the first place.  The "goal", if you will, of evolution
is to produce something that will survive indefinitely.  Our
goal, as a specie, is to make sure that we are that which will
survive indefinitely.  Your argument becomes rather strange
and unintelligible.
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