ted@imsvax.UUCP (Ted Holden) (08/28/85)
You've seen it in the movies, you've read it in books; Ra
was the great sun god of the Egyptians. Right? Maybe. Let's see what
the Egyptians themselves had to say, without the interference of any
modern interpreter standing between us and them. Consider E. A. Wallis
Budge and his two volumn "Gods of the Egyptians", published in 1904,
long before the world had taken any particular notice of the name
Velikovsky; Budge had no particular axe to grind. His translations
are pretty direct and accurate.
The following lines are direct quotes from "The Gods of the
Egyptians", Vol I, pages 339-348:
"3. Praise be to thee, O Ra, exhalted Sekhem, Ta-Thenon, begetter
of his Gods. Thou art he who protecteth what is in him, and
thou makest thy creations as governor of thy Circle.
4. Praise be to thee, O Ra, exhalted Sekhem, looker on the earth
and brightener of Amenti. Thou art he whose forms are his
own creations and thou makest thy creations in they Great
Disk.
6. Praise be to thee, O Ra, exalted Sekhem, mighty one, bold of
face, the knitter together of his body. Thou art he who
gathereth together thy gods when thou goest into thy hidden
circle.
9. Praise be to thee, O Ra, exalted Sekhem, the sender forth of
light into his Circle; thou art he who maketh the darkness
to be in his Circle and thou coverest those that are therein.
11. Praise be to thee, O Ra, exalted Sekhem, support of the
circles of Ament; thou art indeed the body of Temmu.
20. Praise be to thee, O Ra, exalted Sekhem, thou shining one who
dost send forth light upon the waters of heaven; thou art
indeed the bodies of Nu.
28. Praise be to thee, O Ra, exalted Sekhem, the soul that seeth,
the governor of Ament; thou art indeed the bodies of the
double circle.
45. Praise be to thee, O Ra, exalted Sekhem, thou providest those
who are in the Tuat with what they need in the hidden
Circles, and thou art indeed Aperta.
50. Praise be to thee, O Ra, exalted Sekhem; thou sendest forth
thy stars and thou illuminest the darkness in the Circles of
those whose forms are hidden, and thou art indeed the god
Hetchiu.
51. Praise be to thee, O Ra, exalted Sekhem; thou art the maker
of the Circles, thou makest bodies to come into being by thy
own creative vigour......"
Think real hard, readers. What is the one thing in our solar
system which is surrounded by Circles, or a greak Disk? csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe) (08/29/85)
It amazes me: Ted Holden probably laughs at his own postings. I know it! In article <385@imsvax.UUCP> ted@imsvax.UUCP (Ted Holden) writes: > You've seen it in the movies, you've read it in books; Ra >was the great sun god of the Egyptians. Right? Maybe. I guess Ted got conflicting evidence from the TV. > The following lines are direct quotes from "The Gods of the >Egyptians", Vol I, pages 339-348: >[A lot of out-of-context quotes from the Egyptian Book of The Dead > mentioning circles and Ra] > ..... > Think real hard, readers. What is the one thing in our solar > system which is surrounded by Circles, or a greak Disk? The Sun. Darn Ted, almost and large body in our Solar system has a ring. Jupiter has a ring, maybe even Uranus too. More importantly, the circle was a SYMBOL to the Egyptians. You see, they beleived that the SUN was perfect, because it was a PERFECT CIRCLE. A story: An Egyptian scientist noticed that on a particular day in one Egyptian city, the shadows were straigh up-and-down (a deep well had no shadows on the sides). Now, the Egyptians knew the sun was so far away, that it's rays we perpendicular, so when the same scientist noted that on the SAME DAY and SAME TIME, the shadows were angled in another city, he realized the EARTH WAS ROUND. He hired a man to walk the distance between the two cities and used this data to actually calculate the size of the Earth. These calculations were found about fifty years ago in an Egyptian library. How could this scientist have noticed these shadows in a binary star system? -- Charles Forsythe CSDF@MIT-VAX "We pray to Fred for the Hopelessly Normal Have they not suffered enough?" from _The_Nth_Psalm_ in _The_Book_of_Fred_
clewis@mnetor.UUCP (Chris Lewis) (08/29/85)
In article <385@imsvax.UUCP> ted@imsvax.UUCP (Ted Holden) writes: > > You've seen it in the movies, you've read it in books; Ra >was the great sun god of the Egyptians. Right? Maybe. Let's see what >the Egyptians themselves had to say, without the interference of any >modern interpreter standing between us and them. Consider E. A. Wallis >Budge and his two volumn "Gods of the Egyptians", published in 1904, >long before the world had taken any particular notice of the name >Velikovsky; Budge had no particular axe to grind. His translations >are pretty direct and accurate. > > [ ... quotes from Gods of the Egyptions... ] > Think real hard, readers. What is the one thing in our solar > system which is surrounded by Circles, or a greak Disk? Stonehenge? "Sun Dogs"? Archery targets? Do I win? -- Chris Lewis, UUCP: {allegra, linus, ihnp4}!utzoo!mnetor!clewis BELL: (416)-475-8980 ext. 321
cej@ll1.UUCP (One of the Jones Boys) (09/01/85)
> > You've seen it in the movies, you've read it in books; Ra > was the great sun god of the Egyptians. Right? Maybe. Let's see what > the Egyptians themselves had to say, without the interference of any > modern interpreter standing between us and them. Sorry Ted, I can't read any type of Egyptian. > Consider E. A. Wallis Budge and his two volumn "Gods of the > Egyptians", published in 1904... > > ----- much text removed here ----- > > Think real hard, readers. What is the one thing in our solar > system which is surrounded by Circles, or a greak Disk? Uh, let's see Ted. Gee, the first thing that comes to mind is the solar system. Lots of planets making circles around the sun, kind of lined up in a disk (except for crazy little Pluto). Gee, that wasn't hard at all! -- disclaimer: I didn't have my breakfast this morning. ...ihnp4!mgnetp!ll1!cej Llewellyn Jones ------------------------------------------------------------
cjdb@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (Charles Blair) (09/05/85)
> You've seen it in the movies, you've read it in books; Ra > was the great sun god of the Egyptians. Right? Maybe. Let's see what > the Egyptians themselves had to say, without the interference of any > modern interpreter standing between us and them. Consider E. A. Wallis > Budge and his two volumn "Gods of the Egyptians", published in 1904, > long before the world had taken any particular notice of the name > Velikovsky; Budge had no particular axe to grind. His translations > are pretty direct and accurate. > The following lines are direct quotes from "The Gods of the > Egyptians", Vol I, pages 339-348: [translation follows] The problem here is twofold. First, in quoting a translation, one is not seeing what "the Egyptians themselves had to say." To do that one would have to consult the original text with a good knowledge of the Egyptian in which the text was written. This brings me to the second point. Egyptological studies have progressed a good deal since 1904. Citing Budge is having, not a modern interpreter, but an "ancient" interpreter "standing between us and them." What does a modern (say, post-1950) translation of this text look like? Is there a commentary? What does it say?