debray@sbcs.UUCP (Saumya Debray) (12/03/83)
From an article on the net recently: "For an animal to be Kosher (clean) it must chew its cud and have divided hooves." I'm wondering why chewing cud and having divided hooves should be linked with the "cleanliness" of an animal. Any ideas? -- Saumya Debray SUNY at Stony Brook {philabs, ogcvax}!sbcs!debray
dave@utcsrgv.UUCP (Dave Sherman) (12/04/83)
>> From: debray@sbcs.UUCP (Saumya Debray) >> "For an animal to be Kosher (clean) it must chew its cud >> and have divided hooves." >> I'm wondering why chewing cud and having divided hooves should be linked >> with the "cleanliness" of an animal. Any ideas? It has nothing whatsoever to do with cleanliness. The mistake in the original quote was in including the word "clean". Kosher means "permissible for consumption under the terms of the Jewish religion", *not* clean. The basis for the laws is not cleanliness, but observance of divine commandments. See net.religion for related discussion. Dave Sherman Toronto -- {allegra,cornell,decvax,ihnp4,linus,utzoo}!utcsrgv!dave
hbb@hou5a.UUCP (12/05/83)
In fact, it shouldn't. The laws of kosher food are not cleanliness laws. They are generally accepted as laws of subservience. By this I mean that the kosher laws are a purely religious observance, having nothing whatsoever to do with health or sanitary measures. Harlan Braude hou5a!hbb
trb@masscomp.UUCP (Andy Tannenbaum) (12/05/83)
From an article on the net recently: "For an animal to be Kosher (clean) it must chew its cud and have divided hooves." I'm wondering why chewing cud and having divided hooves should be linked with the "cleanliness" of an animal. Any ideas? Saumya Debray SUNY at Stony Brook {philabs, ogcvax}!sbcs!debray Good question, with simple answer. Kosher does not simply mean clean, as in not dirty. When you wash your clothes, they are not kosher. In Judaism, there are many laws and restrictions which do not seem to make sense. The "kosher" laws fit this description. The cleanliness here is "ritual" cleanliness. There are other examples of this in Judaism. When a Jew washes his hands before a meal and says a blessing over the washing of hands, it's a ritual washing, not a physical cleaning. If your hands are physically soiled, first you wash them with soap and water until they are clean. Then, for the ritual washing, you take a special hand-washing vessel (imagine a 24 ounce measuring cup with two handles 90 degrees apart) and fill it with water and pour the water three times over each hand, wetting up to the wrist. Then a prayer is said over the washing, and you cannot speak until a prayer is made over the bread at the meal. Again, this is a ritual washing. I have heard that the Japanese take ritual baths but they wash themselves off first. As a matter of fact, Jews have a very similar custom, the bath is called a mikvah. Getting back to the kosher laws, there is much more than split hoof and chews cud. The animal must be unblemished, no broken bones, no disease, properly slaughtered by a proper slaughterer, properly bled, and there's lots of details that I don't know about. When you say that "kosher" is "clean," it's a generalization. Andy Tannenbaum Masscomp Inc Westford MA (617) 692-6200 x274
esj@ihuxl.UUCP (J. Johnson) (12/06/83)
"... not cleanliness laws ..." I'm not Jewish but a college roommate of mine who is told me that the laws were originally based on hygiene. Washing hands and avoiding trichinosis carriers makes sense if you want to avoid disease. But then again, he was an atheist.