[net.origins] Dealing with cranks

carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) (09/10/85)

Here is a description of encounters with cranks from Daniel Cohen,
*Myths of the Space Age*.  It will sound familiar to net.origins
regulars.

  ... a head-to-head collision with a confirmed crank can be a really
  frightful experience.  Suddenly one must deal with a mind that cares
  little for evidence and even less for logic.  The crank seems to have
  twice as many hours in the day as an ordinary person does to gather
  information, usually obscure and almost always irrelevant, to support
  his obsessive beliefs.  In any argument, he flings this information
  at his opponents in great handfuls.  No sooner has the critic
  knocked down one set of propositions than another set comes flying at
  him and that, too, has to be dealt with.  The crank can produce a
  seemingly endless stream of books, articles, and letters, and most of
  all he can talk, talk, talk.  A confrontation like this can be
  agonizingly frustrating and unbelievably exhausting.  Bertrand
  Russell once observed that the only way to deal successfully with a
  true crank is to counter his preposterous assertions with even more
  preposterous ones, until he is driven away, thinking that you are the
  crank.  Few, however, have that much energy or imagination.
  
Richard Carnes, ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes

sidney@faron.UUCP (Sidney Markowitz) (09/19/85)

In article <181@gargoyle.UUCP> carnes@gargoyle (Richard Carnes) quotes:
>
>  [ ... ] Bertrand
>  Russell once observed that the only way to deal successfully with a
>  true crank is to counter his preposterous assertions with even more
>  preposterous ones, until he is driven away, thinking that you are the
>  crank.  Few, however, have that much energy or imagination.
>  
>Richard Carnes, ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes

I'll bet that Ted Holden is an evolutionist following Betrand
Russell's advice. Notice how quiet the "scientific" creationists have
been lately.

Now, who out in netland has had personal contact with a UFO and will
debate Ted on the *real* story of the seeding of Earth by alien
intelligences?

Whoops, almost forgot...  :-)

					Sidney Markowitz

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					Sidney Markowitz

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dsr@uvacs.UUCP (Dana S. Richards) (09/23/85)

> Here is a description of encounters with cranks from Daniel Cohen,
> *Myths of the Space Age*.  It will sound familiar to net.origins
> regulars.
> 
>   ... a head-to-head collision with a confirmed crank can be a really
>   frightful experience.  Suddenly one must deal with a mind that cares
>   little for evidence and even less for logic.  The crank seems to have
>   twice as many hours in the day as an ordinary person does to gather
>   information, usually obscure and almost always irrelevant, to support
>   his obsessive beliefs.  

Most cranks should be ignored for just these reasons.
But there are cranks and there are cranks.   The above note is about those
that are truly confirmed and I believe "beyond hope", i.e. inaccessible
by argument from any direction.
What intrigues me more are the truly "reasonable" people, people you
respect for their insight and analytical abilities, who have "blindspots"
where their faculties take a vacation, so to speak.
This happens in all fields, not just creationism, and I think we all
suffer from it to some degree.
My question is What has been written on this anomolous (normal?) behaviour?