ln63fac@sdcc7.UUCP (Rick Frey) (10/16/85)
Having just read a series of articles by an author named Winkie Pratney, I was interested to see him quote a number of books as serious challenges to many commonly held scientific/evolutionary beliefs. I'm wondering if anyone has heard of him or of any of the books that he uses as references. Creation - The Facts of Life, Gary E. Parker The Creation-Evolution Controversey, Randy L. Wysong The Genesis Flood, Henry Morris & John Whitcomb Genesis and Early Man, Arthur C. Crustance Evolution - The Fossils Say No!, Duane T. Gish The Creation of Life, A.E. Wilder Smith & Harold Shaw Ape-Men - Fact or Fallacy?, M. Bowden He lists quite a few more and he also lists three institutes that I'd be interested to hear about in terms of how 'scientific' these research centers actually are. Bible - Science Association Creation Research Society Institute for Creation Research If anyone's interested, I'd be more than willing to summarize any or as many of his arguments as people want. Thanks, Rick Frey (...!ihnp4!sdcsvax!sdcc6!ix415) (...!ihnp4!sdcsvax!sdcc7!ln63fac)
bill@utastro.UUCP (William H. Jefferys) (10/19/85)
> Having just read a series of articles by an author named Winkie Pratney, > I was interested to see him quote a number of books as serious challenges > to many commonly held scientific/evolutionary beliefs. I'm wondering if > anyone has heard of him or of any of the books that he uses as references. > > Creation - The Facts of Life, Gary E. Parker > The Creation-Evolution Controversey, Randy L. Wysong > The Genesis Flood, Henry Morris & John Whitcomb > Genesis and Early Man, Arthur C. Crustance > Evolution - The Fossils Say No!, Duane T. Gish > The Creation of Life, A.E. Wilder Smith & Harold Shaw > Ape-Men - Fact or Fallacy?, M. Bowden > > He lists quite a few more and he also lists three institutes that I'd be > interested to hear about in terms of how 'scientific' these research centers > actually are. > > Bible - Science Association > Creation Research Society > Institute for Creation Research > > If anyone's interested, I'd be more than willing to summarize any or as > many of his arguments as people want. I doubt that you will find anything in these books that has not already been thoroughly aired here. For example, Ron Kukuk posted Walter Brown's 116 arguments for Creationism several months ago (actually 116 arguments against evolution), and the standard Creationist arguments have been pretty much beaten to death in net.origins. (I believe Walter Brown is the head of the Institute for Creation Research). Rather than spend your time typing in such arguments, you might more profitably spend it reading why scientists don't accept them. Several books you might read are: *Christianity and the Age of the Earth*, by Davis A. Young (Zondervan 1982). Young is an evangelical Christian, who does not believe in evolution, and is also a geologist. He demonstrates that the Creationist arguments for a young Earth do not stand up to scientific scrutiny. *The Meaning of Creation: Genesis and Modern Science*, by Conrad Hyers (John Knox Press 1984). Hyers is Chair of the Department of Religion at Gustavus Adolphus College. He argues that Creationists misinterpret the meaning and purpose of Genesis, and that the latter is not in conflict with evolution. *Science on Trial: The Case for Evolution*, by Douglas J. Futuyama (Pantheon 1983). This is one of the best general defenses of evolution and discussion of Creationist arguments against evolution that I have seen. *Scientists Confront Creationism*, edited by Laurie R. Godfrey W. W. Norton 1983). A collection of articles by experts in many fields of science, which refute many of the usual Creationist arguments. *Science and Creationism*, edited by Ashley Montagu (Oxford 1984). Has a number of articles on the sociology of Creationism, and includes the text of Judge Overton's decision in the Arkansas case (which should be carefully read by anyone who wants to understand the issues of Creationism in the schools). There are many other books you can read, but these would be a good start. By the way, I continue to advocate that evolutionists read Creationist books. To anyone knowledgeable about science, most of them are pretty pathetic, but it is worthwhile knowing what you are up against. -- Glend. I can call spirits from the vasty deep. Hot. Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them? -- Henry IV Pt. I, III, i, 53 Bill Jefferys 8-% Astronomy Dept, University of Texas, Austin TX 78712 (USnail) {allegra,ihnp4}!{ut-sally,noao}!utastro!bill (UUCP) bill@astro.UTEXAS.EDU. (Internet)