[net.abortion] The two major abortion issues and a plea to keep them apart.

bstempleton@watmath.UUCP (Brad Templeton) (03/01/84)

Welcome to net.abortion.

Please don't expect anything to be solved here, as we all know this is
a very emotional issue.  Please try and keep personal attacks down to
a minimum.  Avoid shouting "Baby-Killer!!!" and "I can do what I want
with my own body, you damned red-neck!!"

This will get us nowhere.

There are two different issues in abortion.  The so-called "pro-life"
issue (what I prefer to call the moral issue) deals with whether abortion
is right or wrong.  Ie. you are pro-abortion or anti-abortion.

The other issue, the so-called "pro-choice" issue (what I call the legal
issue) deals with whether abortion should be legal or illegal.  So
you can be pro-legalized or anti-legalized.   While few people are
pro-abortion and anti-legalization, all other three combinations can and
do occur.

So try and indicate which issue you are talking about.  There is a third
minor issue of whether abortion should get public funding.  This is a
sticky one and people can go either way on this.
(For example, I am pro-abortion, pro-legalized and anti-public funding)
-- 
	Brad Templeton - Waterloo, Ont. (519) 886-7304

pmd@cbscc.UUCP (Paul Dubuc) (03/05/84)

> Welcome to net.abortion.

> Please don't expect anything to be solved here, as we all know this is
> a very emotional issue.  Please try and keep personal attacks down to
> a minimum.  Avoid shouting "Baby-Killer!!!" and "I can do what I want
> with my own body, you damned red-neck!!"

> This will get us nowhere.

Seems to be a contradiction here.  Your telling us that nothing will
be solved here.  (i.e. the discussion will get nowhere).  Then you tell
us some things that we shouldn't do because to do them "will get us nowhere".

Why is it that those on the "pro-choice" side are usually the ones who
like to say that arguments about abortion will get nowhere?  I think that
for them it is important that they don't get anywhere.  Maintaining the status
quo (i.e. confusion on the issue) is a victory for them, one which they are
willing to accept.  Keep it fuzzy and nothing will really change.  They are
getting, at least, most of what they want now and the rest will come in
a matter of time.

If this group is going to get nowhere what did we create if for?  Do we
just love to disagree and argue?  If that is true then it really doesn't
matter what the issue is.  Just turn to net.flame and forget this group.

Paul Dubuc