[net.abortion] It's really very simple

ajs@hpfcla.UUCP (03/09/84)

From hpfcla!jack:

> I used to think that abortion was a complex issue, but thanks to his
> clear explanation, the scales have fallen from my eyes.

Abortion IS a complex issue.  In all that complexity, some anti-abortionists
apparently lose sight of the overall perspective, the level at which there
are some simple and overriding rights involved.

> Why didn't I see it before?

I don't know.

> It looks like net.abortion is now useless, so I'll send out a rmgroup
> immediately.

No need, you can just unsubscribe if you can't think of anything to contribute.

> If you disagree with this, you are "a dreamer, and hypocrite, or both".

You are entitled to your opinion, though you didn't express much worth
agreeing or disagreeing with.

> Or perhaps you are simply ignorant, and should learn more about the subject
> until you agree with me.

I was speaking of those who see adoption as a solution to unwanted pregnancies.
I still stand behind the statement, even as you have warped it.

Alan Silverstein

ajs@hpfcla.UUCP (03/10/84)

Until we have a perfect (infallible) means of contraception that works in
the real world (where sex is a biological necessity):

	-- You cannot take away the right of a woman (for example, my
	   wife) to undo an unwanted pregnancy.

	-- You cannot take away my right not to father a child I do
	   not want to raise.

Until you are able and willing to keep an aborted fetus alive AND care for
the resulting human being until its adulthood:

	-- You cannot take away our rights to abortion, even if the
	   fetus dies as a result.

	-- You have no right to call the act murder or pass laws
	   against it.

Rights of living persons must take priority over rights of fetuses until
there is no conflict between them, even if the results are distasteful to
you.  If you disagree with this, I will call you a dreamer, and hypocrite,
or both.  In any case, I will vigorously oppose your attempts to force
your morals on my life, since you are not willing to take the consequences.

Alan Silverstein

Postscript:  If you think adoption is the right way to take care of unwanted
children, you are simply ignorant, and should learn more about the subject.

jack@hp-dcde.UUCP (03/17/84)

re: "It's really very simple"

Gosh, hpfcla!ajs is right!  I used to think that abortion was a complex issue,
but thanks to his clear explanation, the scales have fallen from my eyes.  Why
didn't I see it before?  It looks like net.abortion is now  useless,  so  I'll
send out a rmgroup immediately.


							-Jack Applin
							(hplabs!hp-dcd!jack)

P.S.:

If you disagree with this, you are "a dreamer, and hypocrite, or both".
Or perhaps you are simply ignorant, and should learn more about the subject
until you agree with me.

purna@uo-vax1.UUCP (03/30/84)

You are right sir
Who ever doesn't agree to your conclusion is indeed a day dreamer and
hypocrite.