[net.abortion] Babys vs 14 year olds

srradia@watmath.UUCP (sanjay Radia) (03/30/84)

>[This is from an article I earlier wrote, which sanjay included:]
>> >Suppose you had two children, one fourteen, one about a month old.  Suppose 
>> >some big, dark, evil bureaucrat was coming to claim one, take one away, and 
>> >you had to make a choice.  You have the baby under one arm, the fourteen-er 
>> >under the other, the decision-awaiting bureaucrat in front of you.  The pro-
>> >lifers would save the baby.  The pro-choicers would save the fourteen-year-
>> >old.
>> >				   Kenn the Kenf

>>Kenn, how did you reach to the above consclusion? I would probably shoot the
>>bureaucrat. And how would you you classify me? Pro-what?
>> 				sanjay

>Sanjay, what I was trying to illustrate a point -- whom is more important of
>the parents or the fetus, using only their age differences.  The fourteen-year-
>old is supposed to represent the mother and father, the baby is the fetus.
>The bureaucrat is all the evils and unhappiness that an unwanted child COULD
>bring (varying from case to case, of course!).  You have to make the decision,
>kiddo, that's why you're suscribed to this newsgroup in the first place!
>Would you let the family get the abortion and rid of the baby, or keep it 
>and possibly sacrifice the happiness and careers of the mother and father?
>
>As for Pro-what, I'd think you'd be pro-misunderstood.  But if you can
>figure out if you're pro-choice or pro-life or pro-notpro, lemme know!
>
>				   Kenn the Kenf

Kenn, if you read what you you wrote it will be quite obvious that it was a bad
way to illustrate your point. Many news-readers (including me) conculded that
you were saying that a 14 year was more important than a baby - if your have
beem reading the news you would have seen replies to your article. And
since you felt that I had misunderstood you, you should have ended your posting 
there.  What is all this bull about me being pro-misunderstood and not 
being able to make up my mind about whether I am pro-life or pro-choice.
Since it was irrelavent to my posting I didn't mention it (and still won't).


It seems that a lot of people have been misunderstanding you.
Here are some of your replies telling other people that they have misunderstood:

>Maybe I better try explaining myself more!  I don't mean physical pain - almost
>everyone hurts when they die.  I mean the emotional pain, mental anguish, that
>... etc

>So do I!  I was just trying an abstract model and you took it literally.

>Alas, again I try an intellectually abstract model, and again it gets taken 
>literally.  I'm not trying to say that the fetus is not human.  I agree very 
>strongly that it is.  However I do not believe it has as much "pull" in
>this decision as the mother.  It has some, but the parents have so much more.

>With all the abstract butterfly modeling, I was trying to show a balance
>between the mother and fetus's potential deaths and sufferings.  Most people
>would choose a quick death than a long, stretched out torture (not over years,
>.... etc


sanjay