[net.abortion] Reply to Gerald Owens

hfavr@hogpd.UUCP (A.REED) (04/08/84)

This is a reply to Gerald Owens. Lines prefixed by > are quoted:

>      3.  Now, something that is totally natural in the scheme of things,
>          pregnancy, has just been defined as rape!  Oh boy!  EVERYBODY
>	  is now a RAPIST, guys and gals included! I wonder how this would
>	  have gone over if the abortion debate was still in net.women!!
>	  (sorry, your honor, but I was a rapist from birth!!)

My article pointed out an analogy between being forced to complete an
UNWANTED pregnancy, that is, pregnancy WITHOUT CONSENT; and sex WITHOUT
CONSENT. Under this analogy, being forced to complete an unwanted
pregnancy may be considered a variation on rape. To interpret this to
mean that ALL pregnancies fall in this category is not logical unless
one believes that all sex is rape. I don't know about Owens@gatech, but
I, for one, prefer my sexual partners to be consenting adults.

				Yours for clear thinking,
				Adam V. Reed
				ihnp4!hogpc!pegasus!lzmi!adam

owens@gatech.UUCP (Gerald R. Owens) (04/09/84)

Mr. Reed states that I misapprehended the analogy.  However, if
one looks again at the original article, one sees that the unwanted
existance of a foreign body in a woman's body is seen as rape, that
termination of the rapist was justified to terminate the rape, and
that the termination of the unwanted pregnancy would terminate the
rape.  Thus, looking at who is getting terminated makes it obvious
that the fetus is being viewed as a rapist.  I suggest that with
each analogy, a mapping function be submitted, so that the analogy
can be "properly" interpreted.

As I have mentioned in an earlier article, the "rape" analogy focusses
exclusively on the fetus, it's existance, and the crime of it's
being there against the woman's will.  However, it totally ignores
how the fetus got there in the first place.  It may be all well and
good to try a woman for the murder of a man, but to deliberatlely
exclude the evidence that the man was raping the woman and threatened
her life would be a travesty of justice, and shows a deliberate ignorance
of what constitutes proper causes of actions.  I fear the same deliberate
blunting of vision is happening in this case.

					Gerald Owens
					Owens@gatech