[net.abortion] Are women human?

jho@ihuxn.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen) (04/29/84)

Are women human?  The answer to this question, as I read it  from
the discussions here, is "Yes, but only second class human." Most
discussions center on the right of the  fetus,  or is  the  fetus
human?  The right of a woman over her body is ignored most of the
time.  Women are required to carry  their  pregnancies  to  term,
whether  they  choose  to  do  so or not.  Obviously, there is no
comparable requirement for men.  Those who wish to  impose  their
moral values on pregnant women, are imposing a second class human
status on women.  They do so by trying to limit the ability of  a
woman to control her body.

The answer to the question: "is the fetus a human?" depends  more
on  one's  definition  than  on  scientific evidence.  If society
decides that the fetus is a human, and therefore should be saved,
then  society  is  committing  a crime by not making an effort to
provide an  artificial  environment  for  the  fetus  to  develop
outside  the  woman's  womb.    Science  is  at  stage  where  an
artificial womb could be a reality.  The pro-lifers don't seem to
be  interested  in this approach, they want the easy way to solve
their moral dilemma.  They want to do so over the  woman's  body.
They denigrate women who  abort their fetuses, condemning them as
murderers, while  they  make  no  effort  to  find  a  scientific
solution to save the fetuses.

I think woman are human, first class human like everybody else in
our  society.   They  should  not be downgraded to a second class
status!
-- 

Yosi Hoshen
Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois
(312)-979-7321
Mail: ihnp4!ihuxn!jho

jho@ihuxn.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen) (04/30/84)

Are woman human?  The answer to this question, as I read it  from
the discussions here, is "Yes, but only second class human." Most
discussion center on the right of the  fetus,  or  is  the  fetus
human?  The right of a woman over her body is ignored most of the
time.  Women are required to carry  their  pregnancies  to  term,
whether  they  choose  to  do  so or not.  Obviously, there is no
comparable requirement for men.  Those who wish to  impose  their
moral values on pregnant women, are imposing a second class human
status on women.  They do so by trying to limit the ability of  a
woman to control her body.

The answer to the question: "is the fetus a human?" depends  more
on  one's  definition  than  on  scientific evidence.  If society
decides that the fetus is a human, and therefore should be saved,
then  society  is  committing  a crime by not making an effort to
provide an  artificial  environment  for  the  fetus  to  develop
outside  the  woman's  womb.    Science  is  at  stage  where  an
artificial womb could be a reality.  The pro-lifers don't seem to
be  interested  in this approach, they want the easy way to solve
their moral dilemma.  They want to do so over the  woman's  body.
They denigrate women who  abort their fetuses, condemning them as
murderers, while  they  make  no  effort  to  find  a  scientific
solution to save the fetuses.

I think woman are human, first class human like everybody else in
our  society.   They  should  not be downgraded to a second class
status!
-- 

Yosi Hoshen
Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois
(312)-979-7321
Mail: ihnp4!ihuxn!jho