[net.abortion] Save the wails

arndt@smurf.DEC (06/21/84)

Doug, my man.  You are some kind of strange shithead.  You ARE an animal
freak!  You actually took the position that killing whales, etc. (of course
the jury is still out on the dolphins - watch out Flipper!) is murder.

It takes my breath away.  Please, please take'em to court.  All the whale
hunters and drug companies who cut up all those cute monkeys for the greater
glory of Homo Saps.  

You have just got to be a freshman.

Don't forget to tell the Biology and Anthropology departments there in the
big city about your discoveries about animal intelligence, which ones have 
it and which ones don't, I mean.  

If I were you I'd shut up before someone caught on that you were fair game
for the hunt.

I agree with you about my sentences, I have the same trouble reading them.
I've decided that it's because I'm so intelligent I can't understand myself.

I think I just did it again.

Anyway, what are you studying?  I'll bet you'd make a great day laborer.

regards,

Ken

nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) (06/22/84)

>	From: arndt@smurf.DEC

>	Doug, my man.  You are some kind of strange shithead.

At least I don't use a computer called "smurf"!

>	You ARE an animal freak!  You actually took the position that
>	killing whales, etc. (of course the jury is still out on the
>	dolphins - watch out Flipper!) is murder.

I did not.  I only said that perhaps they are intelligent.  If they are
intelligent, then killing them is murder.  If they are not intelligent,
then killing them is not murder.  Perhaps you don't know what 'perhaps'
means.

Here's what I said, so you can try again to misinterpret me:  "Animals,
with the exception perhaps of some monkey, dolphins, and whales, aren't
intelligent.  Therefore you can't murder them.  Perhaps killing a
Dolphin is murder; the issue is unclear."

>	You have just got to be a freshman.

Another unsound and completely wrong conclusion!

>	If I were you I'd shut up before someone caught on that you were
>	fair game for the hunt.

It's already too late for you.

>	Anyway, what are you studying?  I'll bet you'd make a great day
>	laborer.

Computer Science. Philosophy.  I think that you're just jealous that in
6 months I'll have better employment oportunities than you'll have in
your whole life.

I can tell by now that you have no ability to address the issues and
have to resort to personal attack, but maybe you can change and try to
muster up some rationality into your sadly confused head.  Here is my
main argument again, to help you: "Murder has nothing to do with the
victim being a member of the species Homo Sapien.  If we were to
discover, for example, that there are intelligent aliens living on Mars,
wouldn't it be murder to unfairly and purposely kill a Martian?  I say
yes!  What do these hypothetical Martians and Homo Sapients have in
common that makes killing one of either class murder?  Intelligence."
-- 
				-Doug Alan
				 mit-eddie!nessus
				 Nessus@MIT-MC

				"What does 'I' mean"?

 

owens@gatech.UUCP (Gerald R. Owens) (06/26/84)

(gulp)

	Your comments generate heat, not light.  For the sake
	of your fellow pro-lifers, if you can't say anything
	helpful or rational, then keep silent.  You shame
	us all.

					Gerald Owens
					Owens@gatech