[net.abortion] Vince M.'s untitled article

heahd@tellab1.UUCP (Dan Wood) (07/12/84)

>>Here is my simple minded position:
>>The fetus is a human since it is a necessary stage of human development.
>>The fetus is alive.
>>The fetus has a right to come to term since it is alive.
>>The rights of the fetus have priority over the rights of the parents.
>>The fetus needs protection since it is defensless(which is why it is
>>within the mother's body in the first place).
>>Both parents have obligations to the fetus and have rights to the fetus.

                   Vince Marchionni




 Simple minded is right. The majority of this article seemed well reasoned and
made sense. I agree that it is not valid to compare a human fetus to any stage
of development of another life form (I see no evidence that man is the highest
life form on this planet). The concluding paragraph however broke all bounds
of logic. What twisted path did Mr. Marchionni follow to come to the
conclusion that "The rights of the fetus have priority over the rights of the
parents" ? Given the choice between the life of my wife and the life of the
fetus that she is currently carrying, I'd  choose that of my wife every time
and to hell with the rights of the fetus. I can see it now "Sorry honey, but
the fetus's rights have priority over yours so you'll just have to die so the
doctor can save the fetus". Hogwash!

  The abortion issue is indeed a very complex one and should not be reduced to
a few simple minded statements. As I see it (and I am probably as guilty of
simple mindedness as Mr. M), abortion is not a social problem except to the
extent that responsible citizens wind up paying for the irresponsible breeding
habits of other citizens. It is an ethical, philosophical, and religious 
problem. These however are very subjective areas. The decision to abort or not 
to abort must be a decision made by a woman, her doctor, and her god. It should
not and must not be made by the legislature or by a bunch of self righteous, 
fanatic right to lifers who think their morals should be forced on the rest of 
the population.

>> When the fetus is removed it usually dies.  This is observed fact.

Exactly. In my view, as long as the fetus cannot survive separation from the
mother without extreme medical intervention it is essentially a part of the
mother's body much like any other organ that cannot "live" when separated from
the body. It is not up to anybody else to tell a woman what she can do with a
part of her body. I don't think the beginning of life should be marked as the
moment of conception or the moment of birth, but somewhere in between when
both independent heart beat and brain waves are present. We mark the end of
life as the moment when neither of these phenomena are present, it seems
reasonable to me to mark the beginning of life at the point when both phenomena
are first present.

I am not necessarily in favor of abortion, but I am against one group of
people restricting the actions of an individual regarding his or her own body.