[net.abortion] A Stupid Argument put to rest

flink@umcp-cs.UUCP (Paul Torek) (08/22/84)

Ken Montgomery, quoting Laura Creighton:
	  > Are males so radically different from females that understanding is
	  > impossible?
	Are men and women so similar that men can get pregnant?  Why would
	understanding justify coercion?

The answer to your questions are counter-questions.  To the first, Who
cares?  You haven't shown it is relevant.  To the second, Would men's
getting pregnant justify coercion in your view?  No, so stop waving a red
herring -- you yourself admit it is not relevant.

	I'm quite sure that the majority of--and let's call a spade a spade--
	anti-abortionists are men.  
	ken perlow       *****   *****

Wrongo, pal!  The majority of anti-abortionists are women.  Source:  Public
Opinion Magazine (a non-partisan polling research report).  I'll go find the
date of the issue if you want.  Another stupid argument runs into a fact,
and sinks.  Blup, blup blup!

I love it when a plan comes together!
				--The aspiring iconoclast,
				Paul Torek, umcp-cs!flink

ken@ihuxq.UUCP (ken perlow) (08/24/84)

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>> Wrongo, pal!  The majority of anti-abortionists are women.  Source:
>> Public Opinion Magazine (a non-partisan polling research report). 
>> I'll go find the date of the issue if you want.  Another stupid
>> argument runs into a fact, and sinks.  Blup, blup blup!

>> I love it when a plan comes together!
>> 				--The aspiring iconoclast,
>> 				Paul Torek, umcp-cs!flink

Aspiring indeed--you've got a long way to go, though, since you
can't see the difference between iconoclasm and name-calling.
You get points for exuberance, though--there's so little of it
these days.

My contention that the majority of anti-abortionists were men was
not meant as an argument on abortion, simply an observation about
the arguers.  My sample would appear to be biased, so I'd like
to get that reference.  Having done survey research and taught
statistics, I will not concede its accuracy until I've read it,
not that it would make any difference in the validity of either side.
I suppose I could take Paul's word for it, though, since he clearly
knows everything, if he does say so himself.
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