[net.abortion] the final argument, tent pitching, et al.

kjm@ut-ngp.UUCP (Ken Montgomery) (10/05/84)

>>            The very existence of fairly reliable birth control indicates
>>that an unwanted pregnancy is not necessarily a risk associated with sex.
>>Pregnancy is neither a necessary risk nor a necessary consequence of sex.
>>There is, therefore, no such "risk" or "consequences" as you refer to.
>
>You're saying birth control eliminates risk of pregnancy?  Then why
>the need for abortion?

<<FLAME ON!!>>

Learn the fact that words have precise meanings.  I said "not necessarily".
This does not connote an absolute.  Rather, it rather indicates that a
strong relationship is not always present.  Don't twist my words!!

<<Flame Off>>

>>BTW, when you drive down the highway, you take the risk that you will lose
>>control of your car and hit a bridge (or other large object).
>
>Are you saying that the natural result of driving a care is hitting a
>bridge (or other large object)?

See above.

>                                  And don't tell my abortion is a natural
>result of intercourse.  Abortion is simply a way people have come up with
>to keep from having to bear (no pun intended) the consequences.  A cop-out
>as Mark Modig put it.

I'm still not convinced.  Why is abortion irresponsible?  Why is it a
cop-out?  Isn't refusing to use the products of our minds to better
our lives a cop-out too?

>Right.  They [contraceptives] work *most* of the time.  The individuals
>involved should recognize that and realize that even with birth control
>there is a risk of pregnancy.

That's probably one of the reasons why abortion was invented.

>You invite me to pitch a tent, and then put up electric barbed wire fences
>to keep me out.  If I get in anyways, am I there without your consent?

This analogy is fundamentally broken.  It assumes that contraception is
entirely the responsibility of the woman.  It also contains a blatant
contradiction.  The very use of birth control is an indication that
the partners *DO NOT* want a baby.  Thus it is ridiculous to suggest
that sex with birth control is consent to pregnancy.


Anyway, why does taking this risk morally obligate one to carry any
resulting baby to term?  Why is it than one person can enforce a
demand for support on another, or have it enforced for her?

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Ken Montgomery
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