dubois@uwmacc.UUCP (Paul DuBois) (10/04/84)
> But now, in the Reagan '80's, ridiculous claims are everywhere. > There are new, wilder claims: Mandatory homosexual bathrooms is one > I've heard, and there are claims that the ERA would make > abortions constitutionally legal. I don't know about the bathrooms, but a piece of information that may be pertinent to ERA and abortion is this: Pennsylvania has a state ERA which is worded very similarly to the Federal version. This document has recently been construed to mean that state money may not legally be withheld from being used to pay for abortion. Some who are for equal rights for women, but are against abortion, have had this objection to ERA: it will be used to enforce use of Federal money for abortion funding. Pro-ERA forces have said that this was not the intent of ERA and so therefore it would not be used that way. It would appear, from the situation above, that the refutation of the objection is invalid. This has nothing to do with making abortions "constitutionally legal", of course, but the connection between ERA and abortion is evident. -- Paul DuBois {allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois "Make me to go in the path of thy commandments; for therein do I delight." Psalm 119:35
mjk@tty3b.UUCP (Mike Kelly) (10/09/84)
Abortion is legal in the U.S. under some circumstances. So long as that is true, why should there be discrimination against poor people? That's what a cutoff of funding for abortion does. It says if you can afford to pay for it, OK; otherwise, no way. That's hypocritical and wrong.
seifert@ihuxl.UUCP (D.A. Seifert) (10/10/84)
> Abortion is legal in the U.S. under some circumstances. So long as that > is true, why should there be discrimination against poor people? That's > what a cutoff of funding for abortion does. It says if you can afford to > pay for it, OK; otherwise, no way. That's hypocritical and wrong. Porsche turbos are legal in the U.S. under some circumstances. So long as that is true, why should there be discrimination against poor people? That's what a cutoff of funding for Porsche turbos does. It says if you can afford to pay for it, OK; otherwise, no way. That's hypocritical and wrong. like, hey, where's my Porsche turbo??? also substitute "several acres of waterfront property", or "a controlling interest in a major corporation", or whatever high-ticket item turns you on. Disclaimer: the idea presented above is not original. Question: what the <bleep> is this doing in net.women? -- _____ "Money. It's a gas. Just keep your hands /_____\ off of *my* stack!" - Pink Floyd /_______\ |___| Snoopy ____|___|_____ ihnp4!ihuxl!seifert
wetcw@pyuxa.UUCP (T C Wheeler) (10/10/84)
a I have to disagree somewhat with Mike when he suggests that the poor are left out of the abortion programs. Here in the New York area, just recently, it was found that the poor were more inclined to carry a pregnancy to birth than to accept abortion, even if it were paid for. The cost of births is much greater than those for abortion, so that argument does not seem vital, re. the poor can't afford abortions, since both are paid through public welfare. I found it interesting, to change the subject, that the killing of a fetus by bringing bodily harm to a pregnant woman is considered murder in California. If this is so, how can abortion not be murder? T C.. Wheeler
agz@pucc-k (Andrew Banta) (10/11/84)
> Abortion is legal in the U.S. under some circumstances. So long as that > is true, why should there be discrimination against poor people? That's > what a cutoff of funding for abortion does. It says if you can afford to > pay for it, OK; otherwise, no way. That's hypocritical and wrong. Big news, buddy. That's the way capitalism is supposed to work. Abortion is a strange issue to begin with. It's not a matter of you're poor, so you can't afford a TV set or something like that. But still, *I* should have to pay for someone else getting an abortion? If that's how it is supposed to be, I think there is something wrong. But I also think that if I should have to pay for someone find/keep a job to do anything, I think it's wrong. Go ahead and toast (flame) me ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andy Banta {decvax!allegra!ihnp4}!pur-ee!pucc-k!agz Dept. of Mental Instability, Purdue University --- "I'm OK, You're a CS Major" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Nothing's good, the news is bad. The heat goes on, and it drives you mad ... "
agz@pucc-k (Andrew Banta) (10/12/84)
> Porsche turbos are legal in the U.S. under some circumstances. So long > as that is true, why should there be discrimination against poor people? > That's what a cutoff of funding for Porsche turbos does. It says if > you can afford to pay for it, OK; otherwise, no way. That's hypocritical > and wrong. > > like, hey, where's my Porsche turbo??? > > also substitute "several acres of waterfront property", or > "a controlling interest in a major corporation", or whatever > high-ticket item turns you on. "Porsche. There is no substitute." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andy Banta {decvax!allegra!ihnp4}!pur-ee!pucc-k!agz Dept. of Mental Instability, Purdue University --- "I'm OK, You're a CS Major" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "One foot on the brake, one on the gas. There's too much traffic, I can't pass ... "