spw2562@ritcv.UUCP () (10/14/84)
>>> The very existence of fairly reliable birth control indicates >>>that an unwanted pregnancy is not necessarily a risk associated with sex. >>>Pregnancy is neither a necessary risk nor a necessary consequence of sex. >>>There is, therefore, no such "risk" or "consequences" as you refer to. >> >>You're saying birth control eliminates risk of pregnancy? Then why >>the need for abortion? > ><<FLAME ON!!>> > >Learn the fact that words have precise meanings. I said "not necessarily". >This does not connote an absolute. Rather, it rather indicates that a >strong relationship is not always present. Don't twist my words!! > ><<Flame Off>> But there is some ( possibly small ) relationship between intercourse and pregnancy, ergo a risk of pregnancy. You're contradicting yourself. >>>BTW, when you drive down the highway, you take the risk that you will lose >>>control of your car and hit a bridge (or other large object). >> >>Are you saying that the natural result of driving a care is hitting a >>bridge (or other large object)? > >See above. Explain to what the above has to do with this. >> And don't tell my abortion is a natural >>result of intercourse. Abortion is simply a way people have come up with >>to keep from having to bear (no pun intended) the consequences. A cop-out >>as Mark Modig put it. > >I'm still not convinced. Why is abortion irresponsible? Why is it a >cop-out? Isn't refusing to use the products of our minds to better >our lives a cop-out too? Refusing to use the products of our mind does not terminate the existance of another human being, and the products of our mind is not the result of something we have done, if I understand your statement correctly. Clarify your statement If you think that I don't. >>Right. They [contraceptives] work *most* of the time. The individuals >>involved should recognize that and realize that even with birth control >>there is a risk of pregnancy. > >That's probably one of the reasons why abortion was invented. Because people don't want to carry teh respnsiblity of their actions. >>You invite me to pitch a tent, and then put up electric barbed wire fences >>to keep me out. If I get in anyways, am I there without your consent? > >This analogy is fundamentally broken. It assumes that contraception is >entirely the responsibility of the woman. Where does the analogy state that women carry the responsibility? > It also contains a blatant >contradiction. The very use of birth control is an indication that >the partners *DO NOT* want a baby. Thus it is ridiculous to suggest >that sex with birth control is consent to pregnancy. Again, there is a risk of pregnancy even with birth control, and the couple (not just the woman) should be prepared to carry the responsibility. >Anyway, why does taking this risk morally obligate one to carry any >resulting baby to term? Why is it that one person can enforce a >demand for support on another, or have it enforced for her? If you're refering to the fetus demanding the support of the mother, the fetus didn't ask to be conceived, and even small children demand the support of the mother, so why not abort them, too? And what about the extremely mentally hadicapped? They need the support of others for their very survival, so why not abort them? Steve Wall ...!ritcv!ritvp!spw2562