[net.abortion] Ad hoc philosophers

don@dicomed.UUCP (Don Stryker) (10/22/84)

   It is somewhat comical (but also sad) for me to see a bunch of
self righteous men philosophising about how they want to have control
over the decisions that women must make about their bodies, lives, and
minds. 
   None of you will ever carry a child for nine months.  None of you will
ever lose a job because of a pregnancy.  None of you will ever flunk out
of professional school because of the physical, emotional, and financial
burdons caused by an unwanted pregnancy.  Every woman who decides to have
an abortion has made a very difficult decision based on what she as a human
being believes to be right.  It is sad to think that so many men must
continue to do what they can to keep women barefoot and pregnant.  To
you it is a stimulating philosophical discussion.  To the women you are
trying to control it is a deeply personal decision that will effect their
lives forever.  I wish you would accept the need to let women make the choices
they must make about THEIR bodies, even if you don't respect their ability
to make an intelligent choice.

saquigley@watmath.UUCP (Sophie Quigley) (10/25/84)

From Don Stryker

>   It is somewhat comical (but also sad) for me to see a bunch of
>self righteous men philosophising about how they want to have control
>over the decisions that women must make about their bodies, lives, and
>minds. 
>   None of you will ever carry a child for nine months.  None of you will
>ever lose a job because of a pregnancy.  None of you will ever flunk out
>of professional school because of the physical, emotional, and financial
>burdons caused by an unwanted pregnancy.  Every woman who decides to have
>an abortion has made a very difficult decision based on what she as a human
>being believes to be right.  It is sad to think that so many men must
>continue to do what they can to keep women barefoot and pregnant.  To
>you it is a stimulating philosophical discussion.  To the women you are
>trying to control it is a deeply personal decision that will effect their
>lives forever.  I wish you would accept the need to let women make the choices
>they must make about THEIR bodies, even if you don't respect their ability
>to make an intelligent choice.
>
>
Hear! Hear!  This is precisely what makes me so upset whenever I read this
newsgroup, and makes it so that I don't read it too often because I always
end up being sick to the stomach by the insensitivity of some of the
participants.  Judging form the lack of femal participation here, I must
not be the only one reacting this way.

Sophie Quigley
...!{clyde,ihnp4,decvax}!watmath!saquigley

andrews@uiucdcsb.UUCP (10/31/84)

I may never be burdened under the pressure, or drop out of grad
school because of the presure of the desire to rape somone.
Does this mean I cannot take a stand against rape?  The same
can be said about abortion.  The question is not of whether
we have bee or can be through the experience, the question is
hether the act is right or not.  And killing an inocent child
is wrong.  Also, if there was not so much pressure on women
to have an abortion rather than "mess up" their carreers, there
might not be so much turmoil involved.

				Brad Andrews

keithd@cadovax.UUCP (Keith Doyle) (11/05/84)

>           Also, if there was not so much pressure on women
> to have an abortion rather than "mess up" their carreers, there
> might not be so much turmoil involved.

>				Brad Andrews


I see.  Obviously then, as far as you're concerned, a womans place
is in the home.