mn@dscvax2.UUCP (Matt Noah) (03/21/85)
>It seems that Matt Noah thinks that us pro-choicers are motivated by >money: >> We don't make any $$ doing it, either. >> >> You are naive to think that pro-lifers will >> work together with pro-choicers to provide every alternative to abortion. >> Each has their selfish interest to protect ($ for pro-choicers, LIFE for >> pro-lifers) and will not work with the other. > > I guess now that the cat is out of the bag, all of us pro-choicers are >just going to have to close up our clinics. They've figured out that we're >only pro-choice because of the vast amounts of money we're all getting for >aborting everything in sight. >-- >Jeff Sonntag >ihnp4!mhuxt!js2j > "I am what I am, and that's all that I am."-Popeye the sailor man. > The fact is this: ACTIVE Pro-lifers get no money for their efforts. ACTIVE Pro-choicers make ALOT of money for their efforts. Take away the profit from abortion and see how many pro-choicers stay ACTIVE. Matt Noah
barry@mit-eddie.UUCP (Mikki Barry) (03/25/85)
I'm an active pro choicer....where's my money? This is such a ridiculous argument, I can't help but question the rationality of the poster. Did you know, Matt, that MANY clinics are non profit? They do abortions and don't make any money on them. Does this surprise you? If you like, the pro choicers on the net will collect their income tax forms and send them to you. Gee, I wonder how much is in the column: Abortion Revenue". Some people aren't in it for the money, they're in it for reproductive freedom. And believe it or not, that doesn't make any money either.
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Dr. Emmanuel Wu) (03/27/85)
ANSWER: No. > The fact is this: ACTIVE Pro-lifers get no money for their efforts. > ACTIVE Pro-choicers make ALOT of money for their efforts. > > Take away the profit from abortion and see how many pro-choicers stay ACTIVE. > > Matt Noah The "fact"? How about "the opinion"? Given the large numbers of people unrelated to the "industry" of abortion (do you know of ANYTHING that people engage in and render money for that does NOT become a money-grubbing profit-motive "industry"?--end of argument about "abortion industry") that actively support the right to abortion, I fail to see where your "fact" comes from. -- Meet the new wave, same as the old wave... Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr
wetcw@pyuxa.UUCP (T C Wheeler) (03/28/85)
Mikki, Mikki, once more you have stepped into the trap. Non-profit clinics do exist, yes. But, dear woman, the Doctors and Nurses who perform the operation DO make a profit. The clinic only shows that the money taken in was all paid out. Simple, right? Non-profita in was all paid out. Simple, right? Wrong! Some scumbag of a doctor is lining his pockets with the lives of others. In addition, you will probably find that the so-called non-profit clinic is owned by the doctor. Reality is hard to face, Mikki, but try it sometime. The state of New York is currently investigating any number of Clinics which are performing abortions on women who are not even pregnant. Isn't that a fine kettle of fish? T. C. Wheeler
david@tekig.UUCP (David Hayes) (03/28/85)
> The fact is this: ACTIVE Pro-lifers get no money for their efforts. > ACTIVE Pro-choicers make ALOT of money for their efforts. > > Take away the profit from abortion and see how many pro-choicers stay ACTIVE. > > Matt Noah Ok Matt, Take away the profit from anything and see how fast ANYONE stays active. dave
dbrown@watarts.UUCP (Dave Brown) (03/29/85)
In article <783@pyuxd.UUCP> rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) writes: >> The fact is this: ACTIVE Pro-lifers get no money for their efforts. >> ACTIVE Pro-choicers make ALOT of money for their efforts. >> Take away the profit from abortion and see how many pro-choicers stay ACTIVE. Note: Not all Pro-abortion(Don't flame over this; we have all heard it before) people make money from abortion. Only the abortionists do. >> >> Matt Noah > >The "fact"? How about "the opinion"? Given the large numbers of people >unrelated to the "industry" of abortion (do you know of ANYTHING that >people engage in and render money for that does NOT become a money-grubbing >profit-motive "industry"?--end of argument about "abortion industry") that >actively support the right to abortion, I fail to see where your "fact" >comes from. > Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr 1. I agree with Rich, as stated above; not every one makes money from pro-abortion stances. 2. I have not seen how rich an abortionist can be, at least today. 3. Just because anything becomes a profit-motive industry does not make that profit motive any more right--- continuation of arguement about "abortion industry". 4. Abortionists have historically made quite a lot of money at what they do. (This fact has more to do with stimulating thought then proving anything-- it may not apply to today). Something to chew on from, DAVE BROWN
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Dr. Emmanuel Wu) (03/29/85)
>>The "fact"? How about "the opinion"? Given the large numbers of people >>unrelated to the "industry" of abortion (do you know of ANYTHING that >>people engage in and render money for that does NOT become a money-grubbing >>>profit-motive "industry"?--end of argument about "abortion industry") that >>actively support the right to abortion, I fail to see where your "fact" >>comes from. >> Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr > 1. I agree with Rich, as stated above; not every one makes money from pro-abortion stances. What are you trying to do, ruin both of our reputations? :-) > 2. I have not seen how rich an abortionist can be, at least today. > > 3. Just because anything becomes a profit-motive industry does not make that > profit motive any more right--- continuation of arguement > about "abortion industry". Nope, still the end. It merely marks as an irrelevancy the notion that "but these people are making huge profits from doing this, thus it's wrong". > 4. Abortionists have historically made quite a lot of money at what they do. > (This fact has more to do with stimulating thought then proving anything-- > it may not apply to today). Those who do things illegal often charge high prices for their services. Another irrelevancy... -- Meet the new wave, same as the old wave... Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr
barry@mit-eddie.UUCP (Mikki Barry) (04/05/85)
TC, dearheart. Don't you understand that who makes money and who doesn't shouldn't even be a part of this discussion? How much are the leaders of pro-life making? Does it even make a difference? Would it really make a difference to your cause if doctors and nurses in abortion clinics didn't make any money at all? Would it change your opinion on whether abortion should be made illegal? What about the doctors that will make MORE money if abortion is made illegal again? What about the funeral parlors that will make MORE money from women dying from illegal abortions? So you see, they money issue is sidestepping the real problem....problem pregnancy. Cut down on these and you cut down on abortion. Logical, eh? Mikki Barry