hua@cmu-cs-edu1.ARPA (Ernest Hua) (05/31/85)
___________________________________________________________________________ In response to Gary Samuelson's latest, I would like to present the argument from a different perspective using the same "facts" (assuming that he is not just whistlin' dixie ... I'm gonna hafta stop usin' that phrase before people get tired of it). "We now have a good reason for abortions. (Pro-abortion, as opposed to pro- choice.) Gary Samuelson has just provided us with ample figures to show us that abortions aren't wasted away. Ain't that nice? Let's say we have 1.5 million abortions. Not only is that 1.5 million less mouths to feed, bods to cloth, education to provide, etc. ... that's 1.5 million abortions free to used in some practical manner. So what do you say, Gar? How about some PROABORTION posters so we can get this economic potential rollin', huh?" I am not trying to mock you, Gary. It is just that you present facts that are meaningless except when someone with a particular viewpoint applies their own slant to the facts. You can say "we STILL have X millions out of work" or you can say "we now created Y millions of jobs", both using the same statistics. It's just dependent upon your viewpoint and your phrasing. This is why I would side with the pro-choice people. It makes a lot more sense to allow someone to apply her own judgements to her own body. If you want to speak about abortion from some moral absolutes, you had better define it and allow everyone to agree to it first, because it would be the moral yardstick that determines your decision. Moral yardsticks are highly subjective, so you will have much difficulty in doing this if, in fact, you are working from this perspective. Anyway, rather than posting things that will potentially infuriate and excite people's emotions, how about a little more rational arguments. I have seen a lot of chants of "pro-dead-babies, pro-death, pro-abortion, pro-communist, pro-child-molesting, etc..." applied to pro-choice people. Yes, no one will stop you from speaking such slanderous falsehoods, as you have the right to say it. However, I and many others will continue to point out the fallacies of these purely emotional statements. ___________________________________________________________________________ Live long and sell dead babies ... :-) Keebler { hua@cmu-cs-gandalf.arpa }