mn@dscvax2.UUCP (Matt Noah) (08/10/85)
> The fact the the fetus requires the environment of a human being's body > to provide it with support tells me quite clearly that it is not alive. > If you disagree with that notion, fine. That goes against definitions of > life as we know it, but that's OK, the net is full of people who make > up their own definitions at whim. [FLAME OFF] > -- > Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr A new born baby requires the attention and care of human beings for quite some time before it can survive independently - Tarzan excluded, of course. "life as we know it" - It seems you're watching a wee bit too much Star Trek, Mr. Rosen. Matt Noah
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (08/17/85)
>>The fact the the fetus requires the environment of a human being's body >>to provide it with support tells me quite clearly that it is not alive. >>If you disagree with that notion, fine. That goes against definitions of >>life as we know it, but that's OK, the net is full of people who make >>up their own definitions at whim. [FLAME OFF] >>Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr > A new born baby requires the attention and care of human beings for quite > some time before it can survive independently - Tarzan excluded, of course. > "life as we know it" - It seems you're watching a wee bit too much Star > Trek, Mr. Rosen. > Matt Noah ("A wee bit too much Star Trek"? What is this man talking about, pray tell?) Why you ignored the fact that the fetus uses the body of another human being is beyond me. Unless discussing this might have a negative impact on your point? It inhabits her insides. Thus it is not physically autonomous, as it is when it develops to term and is born. I would think such a distinction is very relevant, which may be why Mr. Noah glossed over it. -- "Wait a minute. '*WE*' decided??? *MY* best interests????" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr
tw8023@pyuxii.UUCP (T Wheeler) (08/19/85)
This is a flame. For Chrissake, Rosen, shut up. No one agrees with your stupid remarks anyway. According to your own descriptions, your brain is nothing more than a tumor, a parisite, and according to your definition useless. Are you so hung up on your own rhetoric that you can't admit a mistake? I have noted over the past two years that you have NEVER admitted a mistake. Who the Hell are you, Mr. Perfect? How were you born Rosen? Did a crow shit on a rock and the sun hatch you? T. C. Wheeler
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (08/20/85)
> This is a flame. > > For Chrissake, Rosen, shut up. No one agrees with your stupid > remarks anyway. According to your own descriptions, your brain > is nothing more than a tumor, a parisite, and according to your > definition useless. Are you so hung up on your own rhetoric > that you can't admit a mistake? I have noted over the past two > years that you have NEVER admitted a mistake. Who the Hell > are you, Mr. Perfect? How were you born Rosen? Did a crow > shit on a rock and the sun hatch you? > T. C. Wheeler There are others (even Thomas Newton) who would rather discuss things on a point by point basis than engaging in venomous vitriolic tripe because they are unable to engage in the other mode of discourse. If you are not among them, why don't you stick your head up your ass (where it has apparently spent most of your adult life: i.e., the last twenty minutes) and march off. If you are unable to provide substantive reasoning (I have yet to see a time when you have), then bugger off. If I made any comments of the type you refer to above about brains, it was surely your brain I was referring to. I may not like the way Thomas Newton argues. I may find his tactics a bit manipulative and I may find my words a little twisted at times. But at least HE took the time to answer my points in reasoned discourse. You, Mr. Wheeler, have a lot to learn about that subject. If you cannot offer some substantiation of your points, or reasoned rebuttal of mine, then you have nothing to say. Period. I apologize to the entire net for the day I answered this asshole's letter and told him how to post news. This was a flame, too. Sorry. -- "iY AHORA, INFORMACION INTERESANTE ACERCA DE... LA LLAMA!" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr